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Contents
- 1 How and where to apply for additional user rights on Commons
- 2 How to comment and vote
- 3 Requests for adminship
- 4 Requests for bureaucratship
- 5 Requests for CheckUser
- 6 Requests for Oversight rights
- 7 Requests for permission to run a bot
- 7.1 YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (8)
- 7.2 YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (7)
- 7.3 Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) [14]
- 7.4 Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) [13]
- 7.5 JoRobot (talk · contribs) (2)
- 7.6 LSHuploadBot (talk · contribs)
- 7.7 de-flag
- 7.8 GeoUploadR (talk · contribs)
- 7.9 Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) (12)
- 7.10 SamoaBot 4 (talk · contribs)
- 7.11 YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (3)
- 7.12 Autobot (talk · contribs)
- 7.13 SamoaBot 3 (talk · contribs)
- 7.14 Smallbot (talk · contribs)
- 7.15 Rybecbot (2) (talk · contribs)
- 7.16 SamoaBot 2 (talk · contribs)
- 7.17 UWCTransferBot (talk · contribs)
- 7.18 JAnDbot (talk · contribs)
- 7.19 Neuchâtel Herbarium (talk · contribs)
- 7.20 Smallbot (talk · contribs)
- 7.21 Smallbot (talk · contribs)
- 8 Requests for comment
How and where to apply for additional user rights on Commons[edit]
- Administrator: Commons:Administrators/Requests
- Bureaucrat: Commons:Bureaucrats/Requests
- Checkuser: Commons:Checkusers/Requests
- Oversighter: Commons:Oversighters/Requests
- Bot: Commons:Bots/Requests
All applications made on the above pages are automatically transcluded onto this page.
How to comment and vote[edit]
Any logged-in user is welcome to vote and to comment on the requests below. Votes from unregistered users are not counted, but comments may still be made. If the nomination is successful, a bureaucrat will grant the relevant rights. However, the closing bureaucrat has discretion in judging community consensus, and the decision will not necessarily be based on the raw numbers. Among other things, the closing bureaucrat may take into account the strength of any arguments presented and the experience and knowledge of the commenting users. For example, the comments and votes of users who have zero or few contributions on Commons may at the bureaucrat's discretion be discounted.
It is preferable if you give reasons both for Support votes or
Oppose ones as this will help the closing bureaucrat in their decision. Greater weight is given to argument, with supporting evidence if needed, than to a simple vote.
Purge the cache. Use the edit link below to edit the transcluded page.
Requests for adminship[edit]
When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Administrators/Archive.
- Please read Commons:Administrators before voting here. Any logged in user may vote, although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.
Taivo[edit]
Taivo (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · SULinfo)
- Scheduled to end: 20:02, (UTC)
I am nominating Taivo for adminship here on Commons. Taivo has a good knowledge of copyright issues, and is active in DR discussions. He is also always willing to help editors when they need it. Taivo would make a great addition to the admin group here on Commons. russavia (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Votes[edit]
Support as nominator. russavia (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support another good candidate (and he accepted this suggestion on his user talk) Trijnsteltalk 20:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support, a good candidate--Ymblanter (talk) 20:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support Great nominee. We definitely need help at COM:DR. INeverCry 20:26, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support Rzuwig► 20:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support I went through some of his recent DR !votes and found him to be pretty knowledgeable about copyright and Commons policies. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support good candidate. --Alan (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support Why not? -FASTILY 20:51, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support, especially per INeverCry. We could use more people in COM:DR and Taivo is qualified for the tools. WorldTraveller101 21:11, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support - and no, I don't know how he voted in Russavia's de-crat, nor do I really care :) --A.Savin 21:14, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Support. Experienced user with a good grasp of copyright stuff. Jafeluv (talk) 06:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Support --Avenue (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Support, per Russavia (talk · contribs), above. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Abstain I think this user has little experience in making media contributions; so wonder how much he can understand the feeling of a contributor while dealing with a courtesy DR. It seems CC is going to take a more proactive stance in support of moral rights. I wish if we have more admins from the photographers' community to address their concerns. JKadavoor Jee 02:46, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Support as nominator. Active and reliable user. --Cekli829 (talk) 06:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Comments[edit]
Question What would you like to use your admin rights for? -- Rillke(q?) 10:08, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- I will close deletion requests. It seems to me, that this work needs volunteers. For example now there are a lot of open deletion requests, which are older than week. I have observed, that if INeverCry presents some files for deletion, then these DR-s often remain open some days more than week: INeverCry himself does not close them (obviously) and there is needed more users with rights to close DR-s. Taivo (talk) 15:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Question Have you considered making media contributions to Commons? Is there anything you could learn by contributing media that would make you a better admin? --99of9 (talk) 01:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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- I will never become a prolific uploader of images. But if some image consists a copyrighted part, which needs to be removed, then I have cropped photos. (It appears, that if I will not do that, then nobody does.) I will do that in future also, if needed. I have uploaded some images into Estonian wikipedia, for example, et:Pilt:Kinglooma toitumine.jpg and et:Pilt:Kinglooma ehitus.jpg, which are used in et:Kingloom (en:Paramecium). I translated them from other languages and I can do that in future also. Taivo (talk) 10:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. Is there anything you could learn by contributing media that would make you a better admin? --99of9 (talk) 12:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Please can you fix the attribution of the original author of et:Pilt:Kinglooma toitumine.jpg? --99of9 (talk) 12:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- I will never become a prolific uploader of images. But if some image consists a copyrighted part, which needs to be removed, then I have cropped photos. (It appears, that if I will not do that, then nobody does.) I will do that in future also, if needed. I have uploaded some images into Estonian wikipedia, for example, et:Pilt:Kinglooma toitumine.jpg and et:Pilt:Kinglooma ehitus.jpg, which are used in et:Kingloom (en:Paramecium). I translated them from other languages and I can do that in future also. Taivo (talk) 10:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Requests for bureaucratship[edit]
When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Bureaucrats/Archive.
- Please read Commons:Bureaucrats before voting here. Any logged in user may vote, although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.
Requests for CheckUser[edit]
When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Checkusers/Archive.
- Please read Commons:Checkusers before posting or voting here. Any logged in user may vote although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.
Requests for Oversight rights[edit]
When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Oversighters/Archive.
- Please read Commons:Oversighters before voting here. Any logged in user may vote, although those who have few or no previous edits may not be fully counted.
Requests for permission to run a bot[edit]
Before making a bot request, please read the new version of the Commons:Bots page. Read Commons:Bots#Information on bots and make sure you have added the required details to the bot's page. A good example can be found here.
When complete, pages listed here should be archived to Commons:Bots/Archive.
Any user may comment on the merits of the request to run a bot. Please give reasons, as that makes it easier for the closing bureaucrat. Read Commons:Bots before commenting.
YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (8)[edit]
Operator: Zhuyifei1999 (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Correct template name for Category:Pages_using_Information_template_with_incorrect_parameter as requested at Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Incorrectly_transcluded_information_templates
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic supervised (starting the job only)
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time run (may rerun or change on request)
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 6 edits per minute
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): python: pywikipedia
Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Test ran at [1] four of them are wrong. So rolled back, fixed the bug and reran. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:22, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think will be good idea to specify old and new template in edit summaries. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Done as in [2]. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- What about e.g. “Corrected template name (Template:Information → Template:Artwork) based on parameters used” or similar? --Leyo 10:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Done as in [3] --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:45, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- +1, Looks OK for me.--Steinsplitter (talk) 11:20, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- What about e.g. “Corrected template name (Template:Information → Template:Artwork) based on parameters used” or similar? --Leyo 10:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think will be good idea to specify old and new template in edit summaries. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
If there are no objections, I think task should be approved. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (7)[edit]
Operator: Zhuyifei1999 (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Reupload files in Category:Photographs from Večer to a higher resolution as requested in Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Category:Photographs_from_Ve.C4.8Der_.28741.29
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic supervised (starting the job only)
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time run
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): unknown, depends on file size
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): python: pywikipedia
Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Test ran at [4] --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look like bot uploads lower resolution copies too. Is it intentional or bug in original implementation which was fixed? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Before the first test run, I didn't realize the "f" in the URL. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Could you please repeat test run? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. Before the first test run, I didn't realize the "f" in the URL. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:20, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Look like bot uploads lower resolution copies too. Is it intentional or bug in original implementation which was fixed? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) [14][edit]
Operator: Hazard-SJ (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: InitialiLocalization
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic unsupervised
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Ranging from continuous to periodic
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): N/A
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): No
Programming language(s): Python
Most, if not all of the localization bots we've had, such as SchlurcherBot, have gone inactive. I've gone ahead and coded one, which first checks dumps to determine if a change may be possible, and if it determines one possible, it then checks the live on-wiki page. The current set of changes it makes are (subject to change):
- Changing namespaces of files in other languages to English
- Changing the heading title to:
{{int:license-header}}
if it was eitherlicense information
,{{int:license}}
, orlicensing
{{original upload log}}
if it was eitheroriginal upload log
orfile history
{{int:filedesc}}
if it wassummary
- Change parameters of {{information}}:
|source=
fromown work
to{{own}}
|permission=
fromsee below
to
I've done a dry run of it (the code is at GitHub by the way), and it seems good, to me at least. Also, if a trial is necessary, approximately how many should I do for such a task? Thanks. Hazard SJ 02:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- I'm a little skeptical about the code. On tools-login, most of the scripts gets terminated automatically when trying to read the dump. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- You shouldn't really run scripts on tools-login, but rather, submit them as jobs. Hazard SJ 04:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- (replied on irc by memo) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- You shouldn't really run scripts on tools-login, but rather, submit them as jobs. Hazard SJ 04:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Please make a test run. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:23, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here's the trial, I intentionally regulated some parts (by disabling parts of the code) in order to allow other kinds of examples. Hazard SJ 04:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me. Probably will be good idea to refer to internationalization fixes description page instead of generic Commons:Bots in edit summaries. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, sounds good. Hazard SJ 23:32, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- On File:Beech MQM-107A Streaker at WSMRM.jpg it missed the Summary -> int:filedesc change. File:Gap vu de ceuse (FR-05000).jpg has a License header instead of Licensing, you may want to add this as well for conversion. File:K2-big.jpg has a Description header instead of Summary, should be another one to change to filedesc. File:Kalottenmodell Isooctan.png has a non-internationalized original upload log header. --Denniss (talk) 00:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, sounds good. Hazard SJ 23:32, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me. Probably will be good idea to refer to internationalization fixes description page instead of generic Commons:Bots in edit summaries. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Here's the trial, I intentionally regulated some parts (by disabling parts of the code) in order to allow other kinds of examples. Hazard SJ 04:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Could you also add some sorting function to your bot like placing active category entries and interwikis at the bottom of an image page (active = not used in format like [[:category:xxx]] ? --Denniss (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Do we really need interwikis in image description? Isn't mw:Extension:GlobalUsage solved this problom long time ago? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I should be able to let it pick out all the categories and place/ensure they are placed at the bottom of the page. As for interwikis, that should be possible as well. However, based o the above comment, should I still also attempt implementation for them? Hazard SJ 02:31, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) [13][edit]
Operator: Hazard-SJ (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Flickr uploads
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Occasional
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute):
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): No
Programming language(s): Python
The primary task of this request is for Flickr uploads. See here for the first planned request (code). Hazard-SJ ✈ 20:43, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Uploads have been made for a trial. Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:13, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please enclose Author field in language template. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- Done in this change. Hazard-SJ ✈ 03:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Could you please make a test run? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Done in this change. Hazard-SJ ✈ 03:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Please enclose Author field in language template. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
- Because the task is flickr uploads, License-reviewer flag is granted. – Kwj2772 (msg) 08:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll soon modify the script to integrate uploading by URL. Hazard-SJ ✈ 19:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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- In relation to this request, the licence reviewer flag isn't required as it is inserting images which are covered by OTRS and by way of an individual licencing template. But sure, Hazard-SJ is a trusted user, so the licence-reviewer flag on the bot may be useful for future usage by Hazard-SJ of the bot. russavia (talk) 18:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have some issues with this. Firstly, the bot did not decide to upload the images itself. There needs to be some identification of why these images are being uploaded. A link to the request would probably suffice, or putting the name of the person who made the original request as the upload inuitiator. Secondly, the images are licensed as CC BY-ND 2.0 ("no derivatives") on Flickr, but the template being used is for an entirely different license. That license specifically says that the reuser is free to "adapt the Information". Thirdly, based on the template used, I suspect that the OTRS release is a general one and not specific to Flickr. Someone should check that, with careful attention paid to the different license used there. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay,
- That can be easily fixed.
- I've just verified that the licenses are different.
- Strangely enough, the template does say
"This file comes from the Flickr stream of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and is copyrighted."
- Hazard-SJ all is good, it's covered by the OTRS ticket. The licence on Flickr hasn't changed, it's something that some UK govt departments do due to there not being an OGL option for licencing on Flickr. For example, the Department for International Development does it differently, File:Heikki_Holmås,_Norwegian_Minister_for_International_Development,_speaking_at_the_London_Summit_on_Family_Planning_(7556998858).jpg is from here which states "This image is posted under a Creative Commons - Attribution Licence, in accordance with the Open Government Licence." The only difference here is that the OGL with the FCO has been done via OTRS instead. It's all ok :) russavia (talk) 17:05, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can we get a second opinion on this from someone else with access to the OTRS ticket? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:40, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- No, there is no need. Delicious carbuncle is implying that I am lying about the OTRS ticket. Don't entertain such trolls. russavia (talk) 17:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Given the discrepancy in licensing, it is simply common sense to have someone other than the initiator of this request check the OTRS ticket. Russavia is understandably oversensitive after the recent loss of his Bureaucrat rights, but this isn't personal. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- No, there is no need. Delicious carbuncle is implying that I am lying about the OTRS ticket. Don't entertain such trolls. russavia (talk) 17:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can we get a second opinion on this from someone else with access to the OTRS ticket? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:40, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just something else quickly, this is exactly why Hazard-SJ has gone to the trouble of writing this bot, so that we can upload media from Flickr which is on Flickr with a non-Commons compatible licence, but for which we have a Commons compatible licence via OTRS. There are a couple of other streams which I hope Hazard-SJ will do in the future too, {{Aeroprints.com}} being one of those -- available on Flickr as All Rights Reserved but we have a CC licence on OTRS. russavia (talk) 17:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay,
- Please have a look at the latest uploads in the trial (see here). Hazard SJ 05:10, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- The first two files uploaded are correct, in that they have the licencing and "to check" category. The other files only have "Bot: Uploading files from Flickr per request by Russavia" with no informatio, source, licencing template or categories. Perhaps get rid of the bot message, and try another batch. I'll fix these current files though. russavia (talk) 05:26, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
JoRobot (talk · contribs) (2)[edit]
Operator: Joancreus (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Uploading images from Flickr for a GLAM project (note: the program is just slightly modified from the one I created for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012).
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic, supervised.
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time run
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): Probably about 6 per minute.
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): Python with Pywikipedia.
Joancreus (talk)(talk (ca)) 10:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Please make a test run if code modifications are worth review. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Question: the images are to be uploaded from here. They are listed as CC-BY-2.0, however, the one who posted it on Flickr told me it is really public domain, but Flickr doesn't allow it. What should I do? Can I post it without {{Flickrreview}}, as Public domain? Thanks! --Joancreus (talk)(talk (ca)) 08:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
- Joancreus, if ALL images in that set are verified as being in PD, one could upload them as is, put them into a "special" holding category, and then use Help:VisualFileChange.js to change the licencing in one foul swoop. russavia (talk) 09:22, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
LSHuploadBot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Lokal Profil (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
- Test uploads of images for Commons:Batch_uploading/LSH
Move/renaming of early test uploads for above batch uploadNew file descriptions for early test uploads for above batch upload- Named account for later server-side upload of remaining batch upload images
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought:
- Image uploads
Image movesNew file descriptions
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time run (i.e. only for this batch upload)
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): ~ 1/min (or more depending on upload speed)
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Y
Programming language(s): python
Lokal_Profil 22:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
First batch of test uploads was completed before I realised that the account never got bot permission. Bot flag is primarily needed to move the earlier uploads due to a changed naming scheme. /Lokal_Profil 22:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, it'll be trivial for those images, but will be good idea to use language templates, especially for medium field. Please also use more descriptive edit summaries. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- The page moving/renaming entails about 200 images (which will also get new page descriptions). With initial uploads I'm referring to all of the currently uploaded ones. Sorry if this was unclear above. The edit summaries aren't very descriptive since they are essentially uploads. If preferred I could simply use the default which is an abbreviation of the first page content. I figured that actually pointing to the upload project should be more useful.
- The medium field uses the {{technique}} whenever there is a keyword match. Other comments regarding the information pages are better kept at the batch_upload page I believe. /Lokal_Profil 17:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Withdrawn by operator.
I'll actually withdraw the request for bot flag for this account. The file moves were dealt with in a different way and the description pages updated. THe server-side upload will not require a flag and afterwards the account will be transferred to the GLAM institution so that they can use the same account for additional uploads of materials as the digitisation of their collections continues. As this would/should require a new request for bot-status I see no point in doing so now. /Lokal_Profil 10:43, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
de-flag[edit]
Hello,
During my studies at Commons, I came across a large number of inactive bot accounts. I hereby suggest removing their bot-flag like we do it with the sysop or OTRS-flag:
Olafbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Olaf)- RocketBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Rocket000)
- Slobot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Slomox)
- Dudubot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Diaa abdelmoneim)
- DodoBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:EdoDodo)
- KITbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Multichill)
- OrdnanceSurveyBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Multichill)
- BnF import (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Tim Starling)
Chlewbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:chlewey)PDBbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R- AdambroBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Adambro)
Category redirect bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:O)- Btdbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Btd)
- 3247's Image Wizard (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:3247)
- DoriBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Dori)
- DustyBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Wronkiew)
EuseBotHelper (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Eusebius)- Ptbotgourou (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2010) R (User:Gdgourou)
- Alexbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last Edit: 2009) R (User:Alexsh)
- BotCat (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Panther)
- Vertrepbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Docu)
- File Upload Bot (AntWeb) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Davethau)
Korribot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Korrigan)- NSBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Nikola Smolenski)
- MultichillAWB (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Multichill)
- KanonBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Kanonkas)
- SunBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Helios89)
- AbiBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Abigor)
- AsgardBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Dani)
- DonabelSDSU.bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Donabel SDSU)
Kwjbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009 R (User:Kwj2772)Mike's bot account (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Mike.lifeguard)- File Upload Bot (Omnedon) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Omnedon)
ShakataBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:ShakataGaNai)- John Bot II (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Compwhizii)
- MinerBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Saper)
- BArchBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Duesentrieb)
- Moralists Robot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Moralist)
- NiavBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:Delhovlyn)
- BierBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:ChristianBier)
MBisanzBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2009) R (User:MBisanz)- 555.bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:555)
Larbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Lar)- John Bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Cwii)
- Giggabot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Giggy)
Seven-League Bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Guillom)- File Upload Bot (Edward) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Edward)
- MediaWiki Update Bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:pfctdayelise)
- SelketBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Selket)
TeakyBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Teak)- File Upload Bot (Petros63) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Petros63)
- Szczepan.bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Szczepan1990)
- Maelgwnbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Maelgwn)
Polbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:Quadell)- WarXboT (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2008) R (User:WarX)
- ArkyBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Shereth)
- Dvortybot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Connel MacKenzie)
- Un1c0s bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Qualc1)
- HermesBot II (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Wikihermit)
Orgullobot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Orgullomoore)- File Upload Bot (Lcarsdata) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Lcarsdata)
- YonaBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Yonatanh)
- Excl-zoo Bot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Excl-zoo)
- Werdnabot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Werdna)
- File Upload Bot (Eloquence) (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Eloquence)
- PortalBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2007) R (User:Augiasstallputzer)
- MakBot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2006) R (User:Makthorpe)
Topjabot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Last edit: 2004) R (User:Gerrit)- Pngbot (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) (Flag granted: 23 January 2007 Edits: 0) R (User:mikm)
- Millbot-upload (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL) R (User:Millosh)
Regards, --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- There is no point keeping the bot-flag forever.
Remove unless a good reason is provided not doing so (e.g. if a bot does only use the API query module and needs
apihighlimits
). -- Rillke(q?) 18:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC) Remove, but also check their log actions before. --Leyo 18:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please can someone alert the bot owners of this proposal? --99of9 (talk) 21:46, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Done On talk page (and via e-mail, only user who specified an e-mail)--Steinsplitter (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Remove. None of my bots are active.--Orgullomoore (talk) 22:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've considered my User:Category redirect bot deprecated since the last time it edited. Flag can be
removed from this one, at least. --O (谈 • висчвын) 22:53, 29 July 2013 (GMT)
- Regarding Olafbot (the first on the list) - The bot was used to import Signwriting images of Polish Sign Language signs: Category:Polish_SignWriting. The import has been finished, however I planned to import SVG versions of the images as well, which were unavailable at the time. Honestly, I'm not sure if I'm able to find time for that, but I will try. On the other hand, I'm quite sure, I'm not going to apply once again for the bot flag just for the SVG import in case the rights were revoked, because last time it took three months to have the flag granted. I've just proposed the reason, why it may be wiser to keep the flags. On the other hand, if a bot doesn't do anything harmful, what is the point in revoking its flag? Olaf (talk) 23:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot will likely never be active again, so feel free to
remove. — Mike.lifeguard | @meta 23:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot will likely never be active again, so feel free to
remove. ++Lar: t/c 23:56, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot will likely never be active again, so feel free to
remove. – Kwj2772 (msg) 00:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Death to ShakataBot
Delete --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 00:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot will likely never be active again, so feel free to
remove. MBisanz talk 01:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I have no clue if my bot Chlewbot will be active again but there are no immediate plans. If ever I will ask again, for the mean time
de-flag it. — Chlewey (talk) 02:48, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Go ahead with mine, unlikely to be used again soon. le Korrigan →bla 04:15, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- Seven-League Bot is taking a well-deserved vacation, seeing as his services weren't needed. I'll ask for the bot flag again on his behalf if needed in the future. guillom 05:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Info No objection for EuseBotHelper, its activity has been discontinued (I'm its owner). --Eusebius (talk) 09:01, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot will likely never be active again, so feel free to
remove. – Quadell (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- My bot Topjabot did one task (uploading a batch of drawings) so do
remove. --Gerrit (talk) 19:05, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I wouldn't oppose PDBbot's bot flag being removed. It hasn't been used in a while and likely won't be in the near future. I'm its operator. Thanks for the notice. Emw (talk) 01:50, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- TeakyBot is retired due to the prominance of djvu's in wikisource, no objection to flag
removal. -- Teak (talk) 04:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
- Can someone please deflag and strike out the bots for which the owners have responded that the flag is no longer needed? I have some bots in this list. I do expect to use them some time in the future. Don't really feel like having to jump the hoops again so please keep them flagged. Multichill (talk) 06:14, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
First step is identifying the owners. I parsed all bot user pages (with a little bot) and extracted the owners if a {{bot}} template was present (shame on you if it wasn't). I'll go ahead and remove flags for bots where the users have not responded. P.S.: what is the deal with the (invisible) underline tags? Did somebody intend to strike out? --Dschwen (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- All stricken (struck?) bots had their flags removed by me. --Dschwen (talk) 18:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
I fixed a bug in my userpage parsing, which gets a lot more usernames (almost all of them) and added a quick link to the user rights page for the crats. I know of a bunch of users that are not active anymore on wiki. And I am inclined to remove flags if users do not respond. There also are a few special purpose bots where reactivation seems highly doubtful to me. --Dschwen (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- The underline was for those owners agreed to remove. Added by me. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to add that for reflagging there should be significantly fewer hoops to jump through. I'm happy to give the flag back to any former bot that got it removed here (if the conditions on-wiki have not changed significantly with respect to the original request). --Dschwen (talk) 20:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Good idea--Steinsplitter (talk) 06:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I will start again with my bot in October. I still collect some tasks for him. Please keep the bot status. --ChristianBier (talk) 20:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
GeoUploadR (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Rillke (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Upload geo-marker icons from http://mapicons.nicolasmollet.com/category/markers/ and put them in Category:Map icons by Nicolas Mollet (iOS style and "dark")
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic. Supervised.
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time run.
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): Respecting mw:API:Etiquette: Only one upload at one time. Otherwise no throttle. Estimated 10/min.
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): ?
Programming language(s): VB 6.0/COM
Rillke(q?) 08:02, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
I would be intersted whether the community thinks they are in scope before I am going to code the bot. -- Rillke(q?) 08:02, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Comment I take it that this would be a one time run that would mirror all these icons onto commons, but that the main question is about scope? Given that would it be worth cross posting to the Village Pump regarding scope of the bots work, rather than it's actual operation? Having raised these questions I think they have a potential educational value, if nothing else the graphics lab may find them useful for maps. Liamdavies (talk) 13:01, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that these icons would be useful and in scope on Commons. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- +1--Steinsplitter (talk) 19:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Support They look useful for maps, and maps are useful for education. --99of9 (talk) 13:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Hazard-Bot (talk · contribs) (12)[edit]
Operator: Hazard-SJ (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought:
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time run
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute):
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): No
Programming language(s): Python
As was requested here, I'm requesting approval to upload corresponding "*.jpg" files for the "*.tif" files that are in Category:Files with broken file links which have {{NARA-image}} on their description pages. Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Please make a test run. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Would you mind if I take over? My script is ready. (lots of uploads, permission from Denniss[User_talk:Denniss#Bot]) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 07:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please use language templates for all text fields in description. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see no need for this as they rarely get another language description. Better keep the job easy. --Denniss (talk) 22:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see any significant complications :-) I think it's good idea to specify language in description, as well as it's standard practice. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the description field is blank, so if I add them, it'll be Language templates with no text displayed --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:57, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, if I was ambiguous in terminology, but {{NARA-image-full}} has lot of fields which bot filled with English text without marking it with language template. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:17, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the description field is blank, so if I add them, it'll be Language templates with no text displayed --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:57, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see any significant complications :-) I think it's good idea to specify language in description, as well as it's standard practice. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- I see no need for this as they rarely get another language description. Better keep the job easy. --Denniss (talk) 22:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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Can I use a seperate run? Both TIFF file and JPEG file doesn't have the templates. BTW, could you list the fields for the template? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)- Just look on image descrioption page and what is written in English is should be marked as such :-) I think it's true for all fields except numerical, IDs and date. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot about this. I'll code it tomorrow. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 17:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- Just look on image descrioption page and what is written in English is should be marked as such :-) I think it's true for all fields except numerical, IDs and date. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please use language templates for all text fields in description. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I guess it would be better to just let Zhuyifei1999 fix his script and run it (he'd need his own request, though :P) Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- But your request is so cool that I don't even want to make one. :P --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 05:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
SamoaBot 4 (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Ricordisamoa (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: "condense" multiple {{assessments}}-like templates into single ones (example)
Automatic or manually assisted: automatic (after test run)
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): continuous
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 8-12 EPM
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): Python, PWB
--Ricordisamoa 04:02, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Looks OK for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:24, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
- Please can you initiate (or point to) a community discussion involving FPC/QIC/VIC noticeboards to confirm that they want this? --99of9 (talk) 11:00, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
@99of9: I'm a bit busy at the moment, could you please initiate (and point to) such community discussion? --Ricordisamoa 17:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)- @99of9: where should the discussion take place? What are "FPC/QIC/VIC noticeboards"? --Ricordisamoa 03:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Fine for me. — TintoMeches, 08:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- I endorse the objective of reducing page clutter by having assessment-like templates being shown together in a more consistent manner, and I understand the good intentions from the bot implementer to have a bot do that tedious task. I do have some serious reservations about the {{Assessments}} template itself as I find it adds visual clutter and confusion, especially when used for merging FP, QI and VI into the same template with its current implementation. My concerns are
- The visual appearance of the template is for me an eyesore when more than one type of assessment is used, see File:Acrocinus longimanus MHNT femelle.jpg for an example where, the template is used for both FP, QI and VI. There are three frames in different colours and inside the box three logos in different colors and styles. Yak! For the Valued image project we spend a lot of time originally in crafting a nice colour scheme for the frame and background colour, which very nicely matches the logo, on which much time was spend. These colours are a trademark of the individual projects and gives project assessment identity. By putting it all together in one monster templte with frames in frames, as has been done, the project identiity is lost.
- The usage for VI is not 'approved' (nor documented) and I would object to using it for VI. For instance the Assessment template does not (as far as I know) support the important scope parameter, which is in the {{Valued image}}, nor am I sure it categorizes the file page correctly as the Valued image template does or correctly supports the subpage parameter (when it deviates from the default).
- The implementation for the Assessments template is terribly complicated because it is trying to do way too many things at the same time. As a consequence it is very often broken (see the talk page and archives) for its long and troublesome history. It is only a few users here who can actually edit it and maintain it.
- Bots specific to the QI, VI and FP projects will continue to add the old templates. Thus this bot will have to run regularly to merge the templates. It should be checked with the other bot implementers that this merge does not influence any of their bot tasks in unforeseen manners.
- Although parameter names for the Assessment templates has improved, I find the 1, 3, etc. values in the template confusing and non-human readable.
- Due to these concerns, and since there is not community consensus that an all-engulfing template is a better solution than the existing stand-alone templates, I cannot support this template merge as is. And I will revert any such changes made on photos I have uploaded. If there is a community consensus, that we really want to do the merge as suggested, I will respect that (very reluctantly).
- That said, I also understand that the current situation with the stand-alone templates, placed randomly on the file page and in more or less random order is confusing and improvable. I am just not sure, that merging them into the Assessment monster is the right solution. I would much rather like to see some smart logic by which, when placed side by side in consistent order, the existing templates would render in a neater way, say in in three columns if FP, QI and VI (I do not know if this is technically possible). That would make template maintenance easier (like adding new languages), and it would be easier for the project-specific bots to add them and change them. Something like, when you place a {{Location}} template underneath an {{Information}} template you get a nice consistent view from which it appears when looking at the file page, that it is one integrated table, like here for example. I think a wider community discussion regarding this is needed to get some mockups on the table to understand what is possible in a way, where both a nice visual appearance with project identities are maintained, where the visual clutter is lowered, where it is easy to maintain the template code, and where changes to project-specific bots are minimal.
- For now I can endorse having the bot order the templates consistently, e.g., first FP, then QI, then VI, under information and location info, but nothing more until a community consensus is achieved.
--Slaunger (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
-
- I used to be sceptical about merging QI and VI into the Assessments template as well. I think condensation into a single template actually reduces clutter and presents a single compact box to the user. I think this is a usability improvement. I have no reservations about adding this functionality to the QICbot (and the VICbot). I've been playing with the excellent mwparserfromhell python module lately and using that module the task of adapting the bot should be super-easy. --Dschwen (talk) 21:09, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Furthermore if the current implementation of the template is considered an eyesore ;-) I would invest a little time in improving the template layout. The consolidation in wikitext space should be independent of that effort. Actually, the {{Assessments}} template could even be adapted to spit out an old style separate QI/VI box (although I think this would be counterproductive). --Dschwen (talk) 21:12, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- But it has to support the needed parameters before consolidating in wikitext such that no information is lost in the transition, and currently I do not think the template does - at least it is not documented. If consolidated, I agree it should not spit out separate QI/VI/FP frames exactly as the separate templates does now, but I think some middleground in the layout needs to be found, otherwise the increase in uglyness, outweighs the decrease in clutter IMO.
- So you are not concerned about the continued maintenance of this monster template? I would much rather solve the issue with composition (make the overall template call the (possibly adapted) individual templates) instead of the current very complicated logic. Will be much easier to maintain. It is fine if you are willing to adapt two of the bots of course. Greatly appreciated. --Slaunger (talk) 21:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- This template could be made into a well documented easy to maintain LUA module :-). Any takers? Which template parameters are you worried about preserving? --Dschwen (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC) P.S.: Oh, while {{Quality image}} has no parameters the {{Valued image}} template does take a few. Yep, those should be conserved somehow. --Dschwen (talk) 22:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have never tried coding in Lua, but I had a look at it as used for Mediawiki templates. I looks like it has a low entry barrier. It reminds me very much of Python, which I am proficient in. So as a matter of fact I am tempted to 'take' that task of making a well-documented, easy to maintain and easy to test Lua template, with sensible and logical parameter names and values
. Considering how much I have been bitching about the assessments template I ought to take responsibility for improving
. However, it will take some time, as I need to understand a couple of things, like how to do internationalization in the best way, how to best structure the code, how to make sandbox mockup templates for testing and evaluation of different possibilities such that extensions with new languages and support for FP programs on different wikis can be done most easily. I need to understand what the possibilities are for making things look visually consistent, with minimum clutter and
Awesome!. And most importantly, I will need to get consensus from the community about how this shall work, what shall be the scope of the template, by actually taking into account other users expectations and desires, unlike... I estimate this process will take the rest of the year 2013 given the limited spare time I have for this and the rigour with which I will approach this. If putting this bot on hold until then is acceptable, I will be happy to do that. --Slaunger (talk) 19:11, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have never tried coding in Lua, but I had a look at it as used for Mediawiki templates. I looks like it has a low entry barrier. It reminds me very much of Python, which I am proficient in. So as a matter of fact I am tempted to 'take' that task of making a well-documented, easy to maintain and easy to test Lua template, with sensible and logical parameter names and values
- This template could be made into a well documented easy to maintain LUA module :-). Any takers? Which template parameters are you worried about preserving? --Dschwen (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC) P.S.: Oh, while {{Quality image}} has no parameters the {{Valued image}} template does take a few. Yep, those should be conserved somehow. --Dschwen (talk) 22:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting discussion, even if a bit too technical for me. As a "basic" user, I think that current templates are not so bad, but it looks sometimes very "random" on the file page (my choice should be: description, assessment templates, before license). I think that awarded pictures are not visible enough in "Commons". And I notice that if FP or VI pictures can be "delisted", it is not the case for QI (QI for one day, QI for ever), this should not been forgotten in case of a "merging" is decided (a template for "former FP" exists too...). No further opinion for the moment. Only my three cents.--Jebulon (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
YiFeiBot (talk · contribs) (3)[edit]
Operator: Zhuyifei1999 (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Mass creating similar categories in Special:WantedCategories. Currently these:
- Categories starting with
RCE suggested:
: create category with[[Category:RCE suggested categories]]
- Categories ending with
(aircraft)
: create category with[[Category:Unidentified aircraft]]
- Categories ending with
Land of Valencia
: create category with[[Category:Land of Valencia|?]]
- Categories containing a file that is categorised in Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Kharkiv: Create category with
[[Category:Kharkiv|?]]
- Categories containing a file that is categorized in Category:Uploaded with Open Access Media Importer: Create category with
[[Category:Uploaded with Open Access Media Importer and needing category review]]
Categories starting withImages from the Geograph British Isles project needing categories in grid
: create category with__HIDDENCAT__\n{{User:Avicennasis/emptycat}}\n[[Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project needing categories by grid square|%s]]
where \n is enter, %s is the grid. (I'll disable this as soon as Harzard-Bot starts working correctly on task 9)- Categories containing an file that is categorised in Category:Images from the Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed: Create category with
[[Category:Rijksmonumenten places to be classified]]
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): every three days
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 6 edit per minute
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Y
Programming language(s): pywikipedia
Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- I think will be good idea to split process into three parts:
- creating list of wanted categories with bot;
- human review of that list;
- creating approved categories with bot.
- Such separation will help to handle situations like misspellings, synonyms, mix of languages, etc.
- EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but the categories my bot create is categorized in categories like to be classfied or unidentified. The people who does the identifying can mark it as speedy if it's misspellings. In addition, there is a list at Special:WantedCategories. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's not reasonable to create mess and then clean it :-) --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for being away recently. Foroa told be to do this, and I do support it because people might not notice them in Special:WantedCategories. (Searching in 5000 results is really tiring) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's not reasonable to create mess and then clean it :-) --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:50, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but the categories my bot create is categorized in categories like to be classfied or unidentified. The people who does the identifying can mark it as speedy if it's misspellings. In addition, there is a list at Special:WantedCategories. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
Autobot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: BokicaK (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Transfering images from sr.wiki.
Automatic or manually assisted: manually assisted
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute):
Bot flag requested: (Y/N):
Programming language(s):
Bojan Talk 03:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Which task are you willing to run? --Ricordisamoa 09:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't noticed that field. My intentions are moving images from sr.wiki that were uploaded by trusted users -- Bojan Talk 14:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sometimes duplicated license tags need clean-up. {{self}} is not appropriate. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:39, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I'll clean it (if I get bot flag). I don't understand the latter. -- Bojan Talk 03:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- Bot is not photographer. So only license tags without {{self}} wrapper should be used. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
It is not my script - I'm running Magnus's script imagecopy.py that utilise CommonsHelper. {{Self}} would be ignored if redirect Template:Дуална лиценца wasn't created. -- Bojan Talk 23:20, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
SamoaBot 3 (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Ricordisamoa (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: internationalize file description pages, using apposite templates (like {{original upload log}}) and MediaWiki system messages (like {{int:license-header}}
)
Automatic or manually assisted: automatic unsupervised
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): intermittently, at the operator's discretion
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 20-25 EPM
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N (already flagged)
Programming language(s): Python (with PWB)
--Ricordisamoa 01:53, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Some test edits: Revision of File:Signator.jpg and Revision of File:Emerald spring in yellowstone.jpg --Ricordisamoa 05:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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- Another: Revision of File:Hospital-quiron-san-sebastian.jpg (at the moment I'm checking every single diff before saving, later I could run it "bot-like") --Ricordisamoa 05:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- The edits look fine to me. I know other bots do work like this, but I don't see much harm in redundancy, especially since you're making a few changes at once. Which portion of the file database do you plan to run it on? --99of9 (talk) 12:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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- For example I can start from a search, or from pages that transclude {{ImageUpload}}: most times they are old, low-frequency-edited pages, and often contain superseded/superfluous syntax structures. --Ricordisamoa 13:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me, but will be good idea to borrow other trivial clean-ups ideas from similar bots. Like {{Location}} place, etc. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:21, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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- Upd: another test edit. What do you mean with "{{Location}} cleanup"? --Ricordisamoa 13:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I meant that {{Location}} should be near {{Information}} (I usually place it before). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Above or below? PS: another test edit --Ricordisamoa 14:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Above. Please not that removing 1= from language templates may cause problem when description contains URL with with some special characters. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I know, but it checks for them, and it's always been working. --Ricordisamoa 16:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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- But then if someone puts a link in later, they have to also know to put the 1= in as well? That sounds like it will make life difficult. --99of9 (talk) 19:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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- I know, but it checks for them, and it's always been working. --Ricordisamoa 16:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Above. Please not that removing 1= from language templates may cause problem when description contains URL with with some special characters. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- Above or below? PS: another test edit --Ricordisamoa 14:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- I meant that {{Location}} should be near {{Information}} (I usually place it before). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:16, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
- Upd: another test edit. What do you mean with "{{Location}} cleanup"? --Ricordisamoa 13:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
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Ok, I will stop touching that. I made further enhancements to my RegExps, and a quick overview is here. However, it's still supervised, until I reach a satisfying safety level. --Ricordisamoa 23:12, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose that we close this as approved. If anyone has final comments, speak now. --99of9 (talk) 13:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me.--Steinsplitter (talk) 13:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Smallbot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Smallman12q (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: To upload ~500k files from the US National Archives and Records Administration based on a database dump provided in partnership with the Digital Public Library of America.
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Please do not overwrite this file: any restoration work should be uploaded with a new name and linked in this page's "Other versions =" parameter, so that this file represents the exact file found in the NARA catalog record to which it links. The metadata on this page was imported directly from NARA's catalog record; additional descriptive text may be added by Wikimedians to the template below with the "description =" parameter, but please do not modify the other fields. |
The metadata on this page was imported directly from NARA's catalog record; additional descriptive text may be added by Wikimedians to the template below with the "Description=" parameter, but please do not modify the other fields. | |
Please help us by reporting errors! This may include misidentifications, erroneous images, typos in the metadata, possible copyright issues, and poor-quality images needing rescanning. (Be aware that, for documentary purposes, NARA often retains the original image captions, which may be erroneous, biased, or even misspelled.) |
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 10-15, as fast as it uploads
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): No
Programming language(s): Python 3.2
Will use metadata from DPLA bulk download for NARA. The metadata is in json, and is converted formatted to the template by the bot.
Smallman12q (talk) 23:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
For reference, a previous NARA batch upload was approved at Commons:Bots/Requests/US National Archives bot.Smallman12q (talk) 23:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Usual suggestion: please use language template for Author/Source/Record ID fields. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please can you put a deeplink in the "source" field, as that is where most editors will look. I tried to get the original of this example, but apparently "The Online Public Access (OPA) system will be down for maintenance from May 10 to May 25.", so we may not be able to thoroughly test this for a couple of weeks. --99of9 (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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- Yes, I recently heard some details about that as well. I'll try to keep updated on the status. Bdcousineau (talk) 14:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- What kind of label is: "NWL-46-BERRYMAN-H009"? It might help to add the name of this kind of identifier. --99of9 (talk) 13:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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- That is an old catalog number used by NARA. It is no longer in use, but since it is in the current template used by NARA on Commons, it has been included. It most likely refers to the "NAIL" database, which was the in use prior to ARC/OPA, the current database. For a sample, see File:Football team on the field, Haskell Institute, Lawrence, Kansas, 1914 - NARA - 519149.jpg. Better removed? Bdcousineau (talk) 14:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- 500k files! Wow, this is huge, congratulations and good luck! --99of9 (talk) 13:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Great start! Since this is a large set, and since the metadata will not be perfect (never is for a transfer of this size): are you thinking of staging this? Say, a few hundred to start, then 1k, then 10k, with pauses to see what sort of cleanup is needed? --SJ+ 22:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
On hold-As stated at Online Public Access, access to records is suspended from the 10th to the 25th. (2 weeks is a loong roll out). Once access is restored, will do an initial batch upload of 100, 1000, then auto after that. Will also make source available once upload starts.Smallman12q (talk) 00:06, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Online Public Access online again. Bdcousineau (talk) 11:06, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Can someone explain the process here? What does this have to do with DPLA (which does not host NARA images)? If you are just planning on copying the mostly low-resolution images from the catalog, I think we should slow down and concentrate on acquiring more of the high-resolution TIFF files like we did for the first mass upload. Also, with a separate mass upload based on a different set of source files, how are you planning to prevent uploading tens of thousands of duplicates? Dominic (talk) 16:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Rybecbot (2) (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Rybec (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Sometimes when files are transferred from Flickr by a bot, the tags on Flickr lead the bot to add inappropriate categories. For example, this photo of some rocks in shallow water was given the unhelpful categories Commons, Facebook, Flickr, Google, News, Pic, Wallpaper, Wiki, Wikipedia and Photographs. Mass importation of files causes a need for mass removal of categories, which is what this request is for.
Automatic or manually assisted:automatic with some supervision
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):occasional
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute):4
Bot flag requested: (Y/N):N (already has the flag)
Programming language(s): Python (standard pywikipedia category.py or replace.py script)
Rybec (talk) 02:14, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Test edits have been done: 50 files were removed from the News category. Rybec (talk) 06:33, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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- So do you remove every image in this kind of category, or only those from Flickr, or??? --99of9 (talk) 13:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think you could make better edit summaries, like Removing [[Category:News]]. Also will be good idea to remove from several categories at once edit when applicable. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- The bots that import images from Flickr don't create new categories, but only add images to categories that already exist, so my intention is not to get rid of the categories entirely. When a category should contain no images but only subcategories, then I would want to empty it of images, but typically there would be some images which belong and others which don't. My intention is to manually identify the ones which don't belong, make a list of them, then have the script make the changes.
- I've done another three test edits to show removal of multiple categories in a single edit with a non-default edit summary: [5] [6] [7]. Rybec (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Looks OK for me, but I think will be good idea to use link to categories in edit summary. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- I’ve have had the same kind of trouble with stuff bot-uploaded from Flickr being piled up in Category:Lisbon (a much more specific category than those above, of course), which is a pain to clean up manually. There’s a few things that the importing tool could do automaticly, like avoiding over-categorization (e.g. if a photo is under Category:Streets in Lisbon is should not be also under Category:Lisbon), but more or less human input and manual work is going to be needed sooner or later. A big problem is how to tell apart what media really belong in a given category from those that should be further moved to more detailed subcategories within the same tree. I’d really like to have separate "(cleanup)" subcategories for all categories afflicted by this kind of flooding, really. -- Tuválkin ✉ 20:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- If you have to manually identify some files, I'm not sure how this is much different to cat-a-lot where any user can simply select all then unselect anything that should stay. --99of9 (talk) 10:50, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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- I had tried Cat-a-lot before making this request, but I don't know how to work with more than 200 files at a time using it. At least one of the sets of uploads I was hoping to clean up after comprised roughly 4000 files. I seem to remember some messages about rate-limiting, but several months have passed and I didn't take notes. Another consideration was the spamming of people's watch lists. Rybec (talk) 00:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
SamoaBot 2 (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Ricordisamoa (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: detecting and logging (in a user subpage) SVG images without a proper xmlns
declaration on the root <svg>
element: those images aren't viewable at all in some browsers, and should be properly fixed (this can be done later, either manually or automatically)
Automatic or manually assisted: automatic, supervised
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): intermittently
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): about 1 edit per minute (max)
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N (already flagged, see [[../SamoaBot]])
Programming language(s): JavaScript, with Ajax (own code, will be published soon)
Ricordisamoa 04:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Here can be seen the log of all images detected so far.--Ricordisamoa 06:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- How hard would it be for your bot to fix them and reupload? --99of9 (talk) 23:42, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think will be good idea to add maintenance template to image page too.
- Edit summary for log action could be just file name with a link, log page name is self-explanatory.
- EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Does a proper template exist for these cases? (and I'll work on edit summary) --Ricordisamoa 06:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- {{BadSVG}} may be adapted for this purpose, or {{Cleanup image}} may be used. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- Does a proper template exist for these cases? (and I'll work on edit summary) --Ricordisamoa 06:14, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Info In Firefox, you can use the
sendAsBinary()
method of your XHR-instance to upload the SVG. This avoids encoding issues (while some SVGs also work with the send method, this will screw up others). Downloading is very easy through aGET
since the cross-origin-issue is resolved.- I created a sample that works with FF 19 (tested): User:Rillke/fastTransfer.js. It downloads and uploads a file immediately when invoked. You have access to the raw data in function _gotFile so you can manipulate that data. -- Rillke(q?) 20:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- I had a look with Firefox 19. It displayed two of the nine files on the list.
- (E)-pent-2-ène.svg does not display
- (Z)-pent-2-ène.svg does not display
- (±)-Ethyl-2-methylbutyrate_Structural_Formulae_V.1.svg has been re-uploaded several times; version of 13:06, 26 March 2013 does not display and Mediawiki did not generate a thumbnail for it; other versions okay
- 1-Chlornaphthalin.svg displays correctly
- 1-jpg.svg Mediawiki says there's an error in the file; does not display in browser
- 1025arud.svg Mediawiki says there's an error in the file; does not display in browser
- 10th_Panzer_Division_logo_1.svg has been re-uploaded, but both versions displayed correctly
- 1422_Zeta_in_the_Serbian_Despotate_after_death_Balsa_III.svg does not display
- 1885ArmenianFlag.svg has since been re-uploaded; original file did not display
- Rybec (talk) 22:21, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, now I'm going to run a fixed version of the script; let's see... --Ricordisamoa 23:16, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
- I tried to view the new additions to the list, with similar results: most of the files did not display, but one did. I don't know enough about the subject to say definitively that there are false positives.
- 1969_draft_lottery_scatterplot.svg file has been replaced; old version did not display in Firefox
- 1988_Illinois_Constitutional_Convention_Vote_pie_chart.svg file has been replaced; old version did not display in Firefox
- 1st_Panzer_Division_logo.svg displays correctly in Firefox
- 2-propil-amine.svg does not display in Firefox
- 201globe.svg file has been replaced; old version did not display in Firefox
- 250x250Feld.svg does not display in Firefox
- 2NOGCMOS.svg does not display in Firefox
- Even with the possible false positives, the usefulness of this list is apparent. If making the list is all that this request covers, I fully support it (if the request is also about automatically fixing the problems that are found, I don't support that part: some unneeded changes might be made, and test edits fixing the SVG files haven't yet been done). Rybec (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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- After 1st_Panzer_Division_logo.svg I changed the code, so it should work well now. --Ricordisamoa 10:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
I Support this request, but I'm leaning against applying the bot flag. If it's only editing one page, and even that only once per minute, I don't see it as necessary. Am I missing a reason you need the flag? --99of9 (talk) 11:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- The purpose of the bot flag is to avoid flooding RCs (if the bot's speed is out of control)... anyway, there's also the first request. --Ricordisamoa 13:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- What is final functionality? Will bot re-upload fixed files, or only log problematic files? If last is true, will be clean-up template added to file page? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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- In case it is only logging, I can try to write a JavaScript-Bot which fixes the issue that does not need any other host than a compatible browser to run. IMHO a logging-bot does not need a bot-flag but it would be great if we could combine this functionality (detection and fixing). Then, we also do not need to log each occurrence or adding a template. -- Rillke(q?) 09:16, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you. → User:Rillke/MwJSBot.SVGXmlNSFixer.js. Log and continue-params are written to my user space by default but this can be customized by creating an own instance of window.SVGXmlNSFixer. Detection of svg root in its own svg namespace like for this file has to be fixed.
- Files processed so far by the script:
-- Rillke(q?) 20:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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- So could you operate a real bot for this task? --Ricordisamoa 20:52, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've no dedicated server/computer for this task, if that is your question. But I think if I or someone else continue(s) running this JavaScript over all 666,540+ SVG files, it would be a good idea to ask whether other issues with SVG files should be considered as well. Also the speed/bandwidth is not really sufficient… -- Rillke(q?) 16:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I meant "a flagged bot account"; BTW, I got the flag (for another task). --Ricordisamoa 18:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've no flagged bot account where the task would be appropriate to run under. -- Rillke(q?) 20:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- Would your script work on Chromium/Chrome? --Ricordisamoa 21:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- It seems so. At least the loop runs and the parser does its job. Not entirely sure whether the upload will work but it's very likely (it's using the usual
XHR.send()
as SVGs are UTF-8 encoded). -- Rillke(q?) 22:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- It seems so. At least the loop runs and the parser does its job. Not entirely sure whether the upload will work but it's very likely (it's using the usual
- Would your script work on Chromium/Chrome? --Ricordisamoa 21:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've no flagged bot account where the task would be appropriate to run under. -- Rillke(q?) 20:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I meant "a flagged bot account"; BTW, I got the flag (for another task). --Ricordisamoa 18:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- I've no dedicated server/computer for this task, if that is your question. But I think if I or someone else continue(s) running this JavaScript over all 666,540+ SVG files, it would be a good idea to ask whether other issues with SVG files should be considered as well. Also the speed/bandwidth is not really sufficient… -- Rillke(q?) 16:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
- So could you operate a real bot for this task? --Ricordisamoa 20:52, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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How many files are we approximately looking at? If it is of the order of a hundred or less then I suggest to just go ahead with it. --Dschwen (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- It would have to check all files on the Commons, and upload at least several hundred images... However, I have PWB installed, and will starting coding something tomorrow. --Ricordisamoa 21:54, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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- First of all you'll have to check all SVG files. Secondly, when you code please make sure to do a http range request! Try downloading just the first kilobyte of each file you are analyzing. This should speed things up. Let me know if you need help with that in python, I've implemented it before. --Dschwen (talk) 22:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Update: I finally succeeded in uploading a fixed file with PWB: T Third Street logo.svg; presently, I'm not going to run it unsupervised until it becomes stable. However, I'd like to have some DB reports about missing XMLNS attributes. Thanks, --Ricordisamoa 16:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Great! Are you using a SAX parser? -- Rillke(q?) 17:03, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- The bot's version of File:T Third Street logo.svg displays correctly in Firefox 23, whereas the previous version does not. Rybec (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Great. Can we close this as good to go, or are you hoping for further feedback? --99of9 (talk) 13:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think will be good idea to have Rillke question answered and wait for couple more days for other possible comments. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:09, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Great. Can we close this as good to go, or are you hoping for further feedback? --99of9 (talk) 13:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
UWCTransferBot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Ahonc (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: I wrote a bot using php for transfering free images from Ukrainian Wikipedia to Commons. It is an alternative to CommonsHelper, as CommonsHelper often generates bad descriptions and they are to be checked and fixed, and my bot is better adjusted for it. Images will be checked by local sysops before transfer.
Automatic or manually assisted: automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time per day
Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute): 5-10
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Y
Programming language(s): PHP, based on Chris G's botclasses framework.
Anatoliy (talk) 21:52, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- Looks like human review before transfer is good idea (example: File:Вп станция сихов.jpg). Also better author attribution is possible (File:Врубель Серафим.jpg, File:Бівуак. Чатир-Даг..JPG). As well as better categorization (File:Голосіїв.jpg).
- EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:18, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Situation like in first example is fixed. Such images will not transfered from uk-wiki. They should be transfered from original wiki (in this example Russian). Categories for Commons are taken from template 'Move to Commons' in file description in local wiki.--Anatoliy (talk) 12:00, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please can you internationalize the headings to save us having to do this [8] --99of9 (talk) 13:26, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- I still think more human participation in images preparations on Ukrainian Wikipedia is necessary. If it will not done there, chances of fixing problems is less likely here. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
JAnDbot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: JAn Dudík (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: replacing text, recategorization, maybe more
Automatic or manually assisted: both
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Sometimes
Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute):
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): Yes (global bot)
Programming language(s): pywikipedia
JAn Dudík (talk) 10:29, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
Could you be a bit more specific please about what you intend to do with your bot? --Dschwen (talk) 14:37, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
- Since there was zero further input from the requester I will close this as stale soon. --Dschwen (talk) 23:13, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I want to use bot mainly for mass recategorization or mass replacing of text, see contributions. Maybe, when Wikidata will be able to store links to commons, I'll work on this field too. JAn Dudík (talk) 07:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- You mean the several thousand edits your bot made without having a flag? Please don't do that or we will have to block the bot. Recategorizations are already performed by User:Category-bot. And I won't give out a bot flag for a maybe job. I'll close this one. You are welcome to reopen a request if and when you have a specific task (that is not already covered by an existing bot). --Dschwen (talk) 15:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Although I agree that the unapproved volume was inappropriate, the 23 Feb URL format changes like this look useful. So if you can give us a clear, more focused/limited scope, I'd potentially support. --99of9 (talk) 22:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe we could create a template for "URL REKOS", to prevent all those bot edits. --Ricordisamoa 22:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I am not daily editor of commons, but sometimes I (or somebody else from cs.wiki) need to do more edits - and looking for somebody with bot, then translate request... Bots are for helping, but this looks to me like bureocracy :-( JAn Dudík (talk) 18:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- We need to know what you will be doing (more specifically than "mass recategorization... maybe more"). That's even more important if you're not a regular commons user. I'm sorry if you don't like the bureaucratic nature of these requests, but, think of it as a conversation. Bots are powerful tools, and it's important for the community to have their say about what you propose to do. --99of9 (talk) 18:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Neuchâtel Herbarium (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Chandres (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Upload of the pictures created by the commons:Neuchâtel Herbarium project
Automatic or manually assisted: semi automatic, I launch the script manually for a fixed number of picture to upload , but once it's started the process is automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run):around 40 000 pictures remain to be upload, by batch when I'm available to control the upload process, no full automatic work
Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute):4-5 upload per minute
Bot flag requested: Y:
Programming language(s):
Chandres (talk) 14:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
- It might be a good idea to respect the capitalisation of the categories. So far, I renamed the categories of the majority of your uploads. --Foroa (talk) 14:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- I think will be good idea to use Bot in account name. Why Template:Information is not used? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Well, using [[tl|Specimen}} is probably some sub-project policy which we could argue against until we are blue in the face... The sourcecode of the description page is formatted in a very confusing way. It took me 3 minutes to figure out where the closing template braces are and to realize that {{Information field}} is uses within the description field. This needs to be made clearer. --Dschwen (talk) 16:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
{{Specimen |taxon=Abies alba |authority= |institution={{Institution:University of Neuchâtel}} |description= {{en|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:en:Abies alba]]''}} {{de|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:de:Abies alba]]''}} {{fr|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:fr:Abies alba]]''}} {{it|1=Neuchâtel Herbarium - ''[[:it:Abies alba]]''}} |date= |source={{own}} |author=[[User:Neuchâtel Herbarium|Neuchâtel Herbarium]] |permission= |other_versions= |other_fields={{Information field|name={{Occupation|1=Botanist}}|value=?}} }}
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- Actually it is a minor miracle that the old version doesn't produce invalid HTML. If you want to use {{Information field}} please add it to the other_fields parameter. --Dschwen (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
- Do we need the "description" ? It seems redundant with other parameters. I have proposed an alternate layout at File:Neuchâtel Herbarium - Abies alba - NEU000003665.tif. --Zolo (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- The actual description field is important for the project by the providing the links to the wikipedia articles in several language, especially the swiss one. But if anybody has ideas on how improving this information part, I will be more than happy! --Chandres (talk) 08:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- You mean, in this case, the link to en:Abies alba. There is a link to the corresponding category in the header. I would also prefer a link to Wikipedia, but we should be able to have that once wikidata: is deployed to Commons (hopefully, in a few months). Personnally, I find it unintuitive and rather confusing to have two different links just a few lines away from each other, without clear rationale why one links to Wikipedia and the other to Commons. --Zolo (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- I find that the link the the commons category give less information than a link to the wikipedia article, but maybe we could improve the wording of the description to be more explicit. The idea of having the link to wikipedia article is "reader oriented", whereas commons category is really "wikimedian oriented". I don't want to wait for Wikidata deployment, we never what will happend, and we can always run a bot to correct that afterwards. --Chandres (talk) 18:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
- You mean, in this case, the link to en:Abies alba. There is a link to the corresponding category in the header. I would also prefer a link to Wikipedia, but we should be able to have that once wikidata: is deployed to Commons (hopefully, in a few months). Personnally, I find it unintuitive and rather confusing to have two different links just a few lines away from each other, without clear rationale why one links to Wikipedia and the other to Commons. --Zolo (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- The actual description field is important for the project by the providing the links to the wikipedia articles in several language, especially the swiss one. But if anybody has ideas on how improving this information part, I will be more than happy! --Chandres (talk) 08:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- I would like a more expansive description for those who stumble across a file and don't want to read the background of the whole project. My suggested change is here. In some of the test uploads (e.g. File:Neuchâtel Herbarium - Asplenium Viride - NEU000000475.tif there is no description at all!) --99of9 (talk) 23:55, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
The addition of "dried pressed specimen" is ok in english, but would complicated ,without benefice, the script in other language. I will control after upload if all description are present.--Chandres (talk) 06:51, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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- I don't completely understand your answer. Do you mean that you do not know the translation for "dried pressed specimen" in the languages you plan to use, or do you mean that it would be hard to add the words to each language? (Sorry for the slow reply) --99of9 (talk) 13:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- sorry for the slower reply :-D In french italian and german, we struggled to find a sentence that do not change according to the first letter of the species. But we managed and now we found a good alternative: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Neuch%C3%A2tel_Herbarium_-_Isoetes_lacustris_-_NEU000020015.tif --Chandres (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
For the record the actual template is the following, any improvement is welcome:
=={{int:filedesc}}== {{Specimen |taxon=<TMPL_VAR NAME=GENIUS> <TMPL_VAR NAME=SPECIE> |authority= |institution={{Institution:University of Neuchâtel}} |description= <TMPL_IF NAME=IWEN>{{en|1=Dried pressed specimen of ''[[:en:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWEN>]]''}}</TMPL_IF> <TMPL_IF NAME=IWDE>{{de|1=Getrocknete und gepresste Einzelprobe aus ''[[:de:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWDE>]]''}}</TMPL_IF> <TMPL_IF NAME=IWFR>{{fr|1=Spécimen de plante séchée et pressée de l'espèce ''[[:fr:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWFR>]]''}}</TMPL_IF> <TMPL_IF NAME=IWIT>{{it|1=Esemplare di pianta essiccata e pressata della specie ''[[:it:<TMPL_VAR NAME=IWIT>]]''}}</TMPL_IF> |date=<TMPL_VAR NAME=DATE> |source={{own}} |author=[[User:Neuchâtel Herbarium|Neuchâtel Herbarium]] |permission= |other_versions= |other_fields= {{Information field |name={{Occupation|1=Botanist}}|value=?}} }} {{Neuchâtel Herbarium}} =={{int:license-header}}== {{self|cc-by-sa-3.0}} [[Category:<TMPL_VAR NAME=GENIUS_UCFIRST> <TMPL_VAR NAME=SPECIE>]]
--Chandres (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Is the botanist known for any of your items? The ones I've randomly checked have all been "?". If they're nearly all unknown, I'd suggest leaving that field out for those where the botanist is unknown. --99of9 (talk) 10:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I think there are a few too many blank lines in the recent uploads. --99of9 (talk) 14:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Categories[edit]
Please don't create thousands of red and/or invalid categories. I'v put some in Category:Neuchâtel Herbarium Project categories to be classified for further correction/classification. --Foroa (talk) 09:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm aware of this, and it's planned to fix all the categories at once per batch. At the origin the ""XX (herbarium specimen)" was not planned, but because people start to change the categorization without coordination herbarium sheet, herbarium, herbarium specimen, etc, we move to a standard categorization that will assure the coherency, but for that we need to create first the red categories.--Chandres (talk) 09:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Smallbot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Smallman12q (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: To upload files related to Commons:Batch uploading/ECGPedia The files that will be uploaded can be found at User:Smallbot/source/Cardionetworks
This is based on OTRS Ticket#2011102310008874 . The ticket is a year old.
Related discussions:
- w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_76#Attribution_of_images
- w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_22#Offer_to_share_images
Automatic or manually assisted:automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time run...though there may be future uploads
Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute): depends on upload speed (10)
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): VBScript (Javascript, XMLHTTP, MSHTML, XMLDOM, COM).
Smallman12q (talk) 16:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
A lot of the files lack a description. Also, how should author information be handled? There are a number of .swf, a format that will never be supported on commons Bugzilla: 26269, that could be converted to a supported video format. The .avi could be converted to a supported video format.Smallman12q (talk) 16:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
- Please make test uploads. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- First, I need to verify the OTRS ticket and make the relevant template. I've asked at Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#Cardio_Networks.Smallman12q (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- The answer from another OTRS volunteer on that page:
- License template exist at Template:Cardionetworks permission that provides the relevant details. Regards -- KTC (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hope this helps, if not, don't hesitate to remove the {{section resolved}} template and ask further! Trijnsteltalk 18:57, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't know the template was already made. Will do upload later this week.Smallman12q (talk) 20:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Wonderful. Will these images all be put together in a single category? Do you need anything further from my end? James Heilman, MD (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't know the template was already made. Will do upload later this week.Smallman12q (talk) 20:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- First, I need to verify the OTRS ticket and make the relevant template. I've asked at Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#Cardio_Networks.Smallman12q (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see the test uploads yet. Also can you supply links to a few swf files? If they are either static or videos they could be converted as well. Do you have a solution for converting the avi videos yet? --Dschwen (talk) 00:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Working-I'm going to do this upload this week..was busy with Commons:Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library and Museum but they seem to be stuck in a bureaucratic quagmire. The .swf files have an equivalent .avi file (my guess is the .swf is just a flash wrapper for those who can't play .avi but have flash). The .avi will be converted to the webm format(which the commons now supports) before upload. I am in the process of downloading the files... probably around 10GB + for each wiki. I've written a script that will download all files, the file history table for each file, and text of the file for a wiki so this may be handy for future uploads. A lot of the files lack any text so I'm not sure what to put for these. Any thoughts are welcome.Smallman12q (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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- What are some examples of fills missing text? James Heilman, MD (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are quite a few files missing text. Have a look at User:Smallbot/source/Cardionetworks/Example to see how the uploads will look (including those missing text). Let me know if it looks okay.Smallman12q (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes that is okay. We will need to go through and add this after the fact. James Heilman, MD (talk) 02:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are quite a few files missing text. Have a look at User:Smallbot/source/Cardionetworks/Example to see how the uploads will look (including those missing text). Let me know if it looks okay.Smallman12q (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- What are some examples of fills missing text? James Heilman, MD (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- A few peculiarities
- Afib_ecg.jpg (and a few more) == Description == inside the description value in the Information template.
- 2072.jpg this description is not useful (maybe tag everything with a description of less then 10 chars as needing description)
- Course.jpg this is most likely a copyright violation (stock image, compare to this image or do google image search or tineye.
- That last point makes me a bit uneasy about the whole task. --Dschwen (talk) 21:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've uploaded ECGpedia at Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia. I fixed the description issue I believe. I will go back and add {{Description missing}} to descriptions with less than 10 characters. I've requested speedy-delete for File:Course (CardioNetworks ECGpedia).jpg I'll do uploads of the other pediass tmrw.Smallman12q (talk) 03:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sure so 2) the HR = 32 means that the heart rate is 32, standard shorthand and useful 3) I have sent a note to the up loader there and we will figure out who has copied from who. Does look like it is from here though [9]. The point is the ECGs though and not the clip art. James (log in appears broken)
- Ok, so it was probably a fluke. I suggest you go ahead and do a few more test uploads. We should be able to resolve this quickly if you have time. --Dschwen (talk) 02:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- @Dschwen Resolve what exactly? I'll do echopedia.org next.Smallman12q (talk) 19:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, so it was probably a fluke. I suggest you go ahead and do a few more test uploads. We should be able to resolve this quickly if you have time. --Dschwen (talk) 02:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Sure so 2) the HR = 32 means that the heart rate is 32, standard shorthand and useful 3) I have sent a note to the up loader there and we will figure out who has copied from who. Does look like it is from here though [9]. The point is the ECGs though and not the clip art. James (log in appears broken)
- I've uploaded ECGpedia at Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia. I fixed the description issue I believe. I will go back and add {{Description missing}} to descriptions with less than 10 characters. I've requested speedy-delete for File:Course (CardioNetworks ECGpedia).jpg I'll do uploads of the other pediass tmrw.Smallman12q (talk) 03:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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For Echopedia, a lot of the files have no description, I will see if I can get some from the template on case files pages.Smallman12q (talk) 02:32, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have had a look at both ECGpedia and Echopedia and am sceptical as to the usefulness of this bot approach. What it does on the Commons end (i.e. after spidering the source side) is (1) upload the files with (2) information on source, author and licensing, (3) add maintenance categories. For most of the files, this leaves Commons users with the tasks of (4) providing descriptions, (5) providing content categories and (6) renaming the files to Commons standards. That is a lot to ask for, and so I would personally favour an approach more akin to Flickr2Commons, in which individual Commons users import selected materials, and thus take responsibility for them here. Another thing I noticed is that the image pages over there link to "description pages" on Commons, which never exist because the files have the " (CardioNetworks ECGpedia)" suffix here. Has that anything to do with their collaboration with us or is this simply an error in their MediaWiki configuration? -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 22:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with Daniel here. There hasn't been a lot of discussion whether this stuff should be imported. I can see that some of the files can provide educational value, but this is largely dependent on good descriptions. Is there an anticipated use for those file on Wikimedia projects? Ie. Wikiversity cardiology? ;-) --Dschwen (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- An obvious use case would be WikiProject Medicine but the usefulness certainly depends on the quality of the descriptions and discoverability by way of categories (or perhaps file names). -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 23:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- For the stuff already imported, I suggest adding specific (rather than things like {{Description missing}}) maintenance categories that address the points 4-6 in my comment from an hour ago, i.e. something like Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia missing descriptions (for which an alternative would be CatScan), Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia missing categories (these have not been tagged at all, by the way, since Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia had not been marked as hidden and thus counted as a content category) and Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECGpedia needing file name review. This way, people interested in helping out with ECGpedia can dive right in and do not have to spend time searching for files in need of their help. -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 23:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- I tend to agree with Daniel here. There hasn't been a lot of discussion whether this stuff should be imported. I can see that some of the files can provide educational value, but this is largely dependent on good descriptions. Is there an anticipated use for those file on Wikimedia projects? Ie. Wikiversity cardiology? ;-) --Dschwen (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
In terms of converting multimedia files to OGG, it may be worthwhile to have a look at media.py. Adding WebM support to that is easy. -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- For converting to .webm, I'll be calling w:FFmpeg in a subprocess from python. Daniel Mietchen's description above is fairly accurate as my bot is spidering and then uploading whatever info it can get...which isn't that much. The links to commons from the pedia pages are non-existent (it's a bug). I could add a custom description missing template and whatnot. So far, none of the files are being used...so I'm not sure if I should upload more files for Echopedia. I will post a note to WikiProject Medicine as to whether this upload is worthwhile.Smallman12q (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I plan to go through the ECGs, add descriptions and than add many of them to the appropriate Wikipedia article. James Heilman, MD (talk) 01:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
- I've uploaded ECHOpedia to Category:Media from CardioNetworks ECHOpedia. I could do animated gifs for the videos, but most would fall in the 25-30 million total pixel range and currently only less those with 25 million will be rendered.Smallman12q (talk) 17:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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The videos are 1-2 second clips. Here's what a gif version would look like.Smallman12q (talk) 22:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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- Five times the file size, conversion loss, and no apparent advantage. Why on earth would you convert to anmated GIF?! --Dschwen (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Gifs may be easier to use in some places and can loop by default. Anyhow, it's probably not worthwhile. PCIpedia is up next...it's ~200 files.Smallman12q (talk) 01:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Five times the file size, conversion loss, and no apparent advantage. Why on earth would you convert to anmated GIF?! --Dschwen (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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Smallbot (talk · contribs)[edit]
Operator: Smallman12q (talk · contributions · Number of edits: · recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · SUL)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: To upload the NOAA Office of Response and Restoration Photo Collection. 4000 files of high-res JPG and PCD. I plan to convert PCD to 2048*3072 JPG for upload.
See User:Smallbot/source/NOAA Office of Response and Restoration Photo Collection for more details.
Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time run
Maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute): 5-10 (depends on upload speed)
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): VBScript (Javascript, XMLHTTP, MSHTML, XMLDOM, COM).
Source: User:Smallbot/source/NOAA Office of Response and Restoration Photo Collection
Smallman12q (talk) 22:52, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
Discussion[edit]
The extracted metadata is limited the galleries 1,2, and 3. (See the xml files of User:Smallbot/source/NOAA Office of Response and Restoration Photo Collection). I'm not sure how to name the files where there is no metadata.Smallman12q (talk) 22:52, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Can you give examples of how the file names will be constructed, and can you point us to an example of missing metadata? --Dschwen (talk) 08:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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- I've posted a table here. Some of the items have no description, some have a vague description ("??Oregon somwhere"), some have conflicting descriptions ("Roebling Steel, Roebling, NJ 4/4/90 Water treatment facility located on the banks of the Delaware River." and "Roebling Steel, Roebling, NY 4/4/90 Water treatment facility located on the banks of the Delaware River.") Should I upload with multiple descriptions?
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- Some are very good. From gallery 4, they follow this pattern: <incident>, <place>, <State>, <Date>. <Description>. such as "Powell Duffryn chemical storage tank incident, Savannah, Georgia, April 1995. Data from a berm chracterization overhead used during the Powell Duffryn incident."Smallman12q (talk) 20:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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Gallery 4 is the most complete. I've created a table here. I'll take the first 230 characters of the description as the filename.Smallman12q (talk) 02:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'm happy to approve the gallery 4 upload. For the others, especially those without descriptions, I'd like to see an example of the proposed filenames before upload. --99of9 (talk) 11:29, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe we're all waiting for each other here. Would the bot operator like to comment on plans for galleries 1-3? Or should I just close with approval of gallery 4? You're a very experienced operator, so I trust whatever you decide to go with. --99of9 (talk) 12:53, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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