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English: Report users for clear cases of vandalism. Block requests for any other reason should be reported to the blocks and protections noticeboard.
Suomi: Raportoi ilmeisistä vandalismitapauksista. Muut estopyynnöt jätettäköön estojen ja suojauksen ilmoitustaululle.
Italiano: Segnala qui le utenze responsabili di vandalismi palesi. Richieste di blocco per qualsiasi altra ragione vanno effettuate nella sezione Politiche di blocco e protezione.
日本語: 明白な荒らし利用者の報告所。それ以外を理由とするブロック依頼はブロックと保護へ。
한국어: 문서 훼손을 저지른 사용자를 신고하는 곳입니다. 다른 이유로 인한 차단 요청은 차단 및 보호 요청 문서에 남겨주세요.
മലയാളം: ഉപയോക്താക്കളുടെ ഉറപ്പായ വാൻഡലിസത്തിനെക്കുറിച്ച് ഇവിടെ അറിയിക്കുക. മറ്റ് കാരണങ്ങൾക്ക് ഉപയോക്താക്കളെ തടയാനുള്ള അപേക്ഷകൾ തടയലുകളും സംരക്ഷണങ്ങളും എന്ന താളിലാണ് അറിയിക്കേണ്ടത്.
Svenska: Rapportera användare för tydliga tecken på vandalism. Begäran av blockering för någon annan anledning ska rapporteras på anslagstavlan för blockeringar och skydd.
Українська: Повідомляйте про користувачів, що явно займаються вандалізмом. Запити щодо блокування з будь-якої іншої причини повинні бути повідомлені на дошку для оголошень щодо блокування та захисту.
中文(简体): 报告有明显破坏的用户。任何其他原因的封禁请求应该在封禁与保护通知栏报告。
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English: Report disputes with users that require administrator assistance. Further steps are listed at resolve disputes.
Suomi: Raportoi ylläpitäjän väliintulon vaativa käyttäjän ongelmallinen toiminta. Käytä käyttäjäongelmien ilmoitustaulua jollei ylläpitäjää tarvita.
Italiano: Segnala qui eventuali conflitti con altri utenti che richiedano l'intervento di un amministratore. In caso un amministratore non sia necessario si consiglia di utilizzare la sezione Risoluzione dei conflitti.
한국어: 관리자의 개입이 필요한 분쟁을 해결하는 곳입니다. 관리자의 개입이 필요하지 않다면 분쟁 해결 게시판을 이용하시기 바랍니다.
മലയാളം: മറ്റൊരു ഉപയോക്താവുമായുള്ള തർക്കത്തിൽ കാര്യനിർവ്വാഹകർ ഇടപെടണമെങ്കിൽ ഇവിടെ അറിയിക്കുക. കാര്യനിർവാഹകരുടെ സഹായം ആവശ്യമില്ലെങ്കിൽ തർക്കങ്ങളുടെ നോട്ടീസ് ബോർഡിൽ ആണ് ഇക്കാര്യം അറിയിക്കേണ്ടത്.
Svenska: Rapportera tvister med användare som kräver hjälp av en administratör. Använd anslagstavlan för användarproblem om ingen administratörshjälp behövs.
Українська: Повідомляйте про суперечки з користувачами, котрі потребують допомоги адміністратора. Подальші кроки показані на сторінці щодо вирішення суперечок.
中文(简体): 报告需要管理员协助的用户争端。更多步骤列于争端解决。
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English: Reports that do not suit the vandalism noticeboard may be reported here. Requests for page protection/unprotection could also be requested here.
Italiano: Utilizza questa sezione per segnalare problemi non riferibili al vandalismo. Qui vanno anche le richieste di protezione e sprotezione pagine.
한국어: 문서 훼손 관련 관리자 요청에 맞지 않는 차단 요청이나 문서의 보호/보호 해제 요청을 이곳에서 할 수 있습니다.
മലയാളം: വാൻഡലിസം നോട്ടീസ്ബോർഡിൽ അനുചിതമായ അപേക്ഷകൾ ഇവിടെ നൽകാം. ഒരു താളിന്റെ സംരക്ഷിക്കാനുള്ള/സംരക്ഷണം മാറ്റാനുള്ള അപേക്ഷകളും ഇവിടെ നൽകാവുന്നതാണ്.
Svenska: Rapporteringar som inte passar anslagstavlan för vandalism kan rapporteras här. Begäran för sidskydd eller borttagning av sidskydd kan också begäras här.
Suomi: Tällä sivulla voit kuuluttaa vandalismin ilmoitustaululle sopimattomat ilmoitukset. Tällä ilmoitustaululla voit myös pyytää sivun suojaamista tai suojauksen purkua.
Українська: Повідомлення, що не підходять для дошки для оголошень щодо вандалізму можна залишити тут. Запити щодо встановлення чи зняття захисту зі сторінок також можна запитати тут.
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English: Other reports that require administrator assistance (i.e. requested moves/renames) which do not fit in any of the previous three noticeboards may be reported here. Requests for history merging or splitting should be filed here.
Suomi: Tällä ilmoitustaulla voit kuuluttaa muille ilmoitustauluille sopimattomat ylläpitäjän huomion vaativat tehtävät ja ilmoitukset, esimerkiksi suojattujen sivujen siirrot. Pyynnöt sivuhistorian yhdistämisestä tai jakamisesta tulee tehdä täällä.
Italiano: Segnalazioni varie, non ricomprese tra le precedenti, che richiedano l'intervento di un amministratore (spostamenti, ridenominazioni, etc.); Se il tuo problema riguarda l'unione o la separazione delle cronologie pagine, allora puoi rivolgerti qui.
한국어: 다른 관리자 요청 문서에 맞지 않는 일반적인 관리에 대해 관리자의 도움을 요청하는 곳입니다.
മലയാളം: മറ്റ് മൂന്ന് നോട്ടീസ് ബോർഡുകളിലും ചേരാത്ത അപേക്ഷകൾ (പേര് മാറ്റൽ തുടങ്ങിയവ) ഇവിടെ നൽകാം. നാൾവഴിയിൽ മാറ്റം വരുത്തി നാൾവഴി ഭാഗിക്കാനോ യോജിപ്പിക്കാനോ ഉള്ള അപേക്ഷകൾ നൽകാൻ ഇവിടെ ഞെക്കുക.
Svenska: Andra rapporteringar som kräver administratörshjälp (t.ex. begärda flyttningar/namnbyten) som inte passar i någon av de föregående anslagstavlorna kan rapporteras här. Begäran för sammanslagning eller delning av historik ska lämnas in här.
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English: This is a place where users can communicate with administrators, or administrators with one another. You can report vandalism, problematic users, or anything else that needs an administrator's intervention. If reporting possible child pornography also email legal-reports
![]() العربية: هذا هو المكان حيث يمكن للمستخدمين التواصل مع الإداريين، أو الإداريين مع بعضهم البعض. يمكنك الإبلاغ عنه التخريب، المستخدمين الذين يسببون مشاكل، أو أي شيء آخر يحتاج للتدخل من قبل إداري.
Azərbaycanca: Bu bölüm istifadəçilərin idarəçilərlə ünsiyyət qura biləcəklər bir yerdir. Bir idarəçiyə vandalizmle müdaxilə ehtiyacı, problemli istifadəçilər ya da başqa bir şey ifadə edəbilərsiniz.
Català: Aquest és el lloc destinat a que els usuaris puguin comunicar-se amb els administradors, o viceversa. Podeu notificar edicions vandàliques, reclamar l'atenció sobre usuaris problemàtics, o indicar qualsevol altre assumpte que requereixi la intervenció d'un administrador.
Česky: Tato stránka slouží uživatelům ke komunikaci se správci zde na Commons, nebo ke komunikaci správců mezi sebou. Můžete zde nahlásit vandalismus, problematické uživatele nebo další záležitosti, které mohou díky svým pravomocem vyřešit jen správci.
Deutsch: Diese Seite ist für Gespräche mit Administratoren. Du kannst hier Probleme melden, die den Eingriff eines Administrators nötig machen, zum Beispiel Vandalismus oder Probleme mit anderen Benutzern.
Ελληνικά: Αυτή είναι μια σελίδα στην οποία οι χρήστες μπορούν να επικοινωνήσουν με διαχειριστές, ή οι διαχειριστές με κάποιον άλλο. Μπορείτε να αναφέρετε βανδαλισμούς, χρήστες που προκαλούν προβλήματα, ή οτιδήποτε άλλο χρειάζεται την παρέμβαση ενός διαχειριστή.
Esperanto: Ĉi tie estas loko kie uzantoj povas interkomunikiĝi kun administrantoj, aŭ administrantoj unu kun la alia. Vi povas raporti pri vandalismo, problemaj uzantoj, kaj ĉio alia, kio bezonas intervenon de administranto.
Español: Este es el sitio destinado a que los usuarios puedan comunicarse con los administradores, o viceversa. Puede notificar un vandalismo, reclamar atención sobre usuarios problemáticos, o indicar cualquier otro asunto que requiera la intervención de un administrador.
فارسی: این جا مکانیست که کاربران با مدیران، یا مدیران با یکدیگر میتوانند ارتباط برقرار کنند. شما میتوانید خرابکاری، کاربران مشکلساز، یا هر آن چیز دیگری که نیاز به اقدام مدیران داشته باشد را گزارش کنید.
Français: Cette page est destinée à permettre aux utilisateurs et aux administrateurs de communiquer entre eux. Vous pouvez utiliser cette page pour signaler des actes de vandalisme, des utilisateurs au comportement problématique, ou tout autre fait nécessitant l'intervention d'un administrateur. Si vous ne maîtrisez que le français, la page Commons:Bistro reste cependant utilisable et vous y trouverez des administrateurs francophones.
Frysk: Op dizze side kinne meidoggers oerlizze mei behearders, of behearders mei inoar. Jo kinne hjir fandalisme, problematyske meidoggers en oare saken dy't oandacht fan in behearder freegje melde.
हिन्दी: यह वह स्थान है जहाँ सदस्य प्रबंधकों से, तथा प्रबंधक एक दूसरे से संवाद कर सकते हैं। आप बर्बरता, समस्याग्रस्त सदस्य या कोई और विषय जिसके लिए एक प्रबंधक के हस्तक्षेप की ज़रूरत हो, यहाँ बयान कर सकते हैं।
日本語: このページは、管理者同士、あるいは、利用者ユーザがJA:管理者,EN:administratorsと連絡を取るための場所です。問題のあるユーザを報告したり、荒らしユーザを通報したり、管理者の協力や仲介を必要とする事項などにご利用ください。
한국어: 이 문서는 사용자가 관리자, 혹은 관리자가 다른 관리자와 의견을 교환하는 곳입니다. 문서를 훼손하거나 문제가 있는 사용자를 보고하거나, 관리자의 중재가 필요한 사항이 있으면 이곳을 이용해주십시오.
Македонски: Ова е место каде што корисниците можат да комуницираат со администраторите, или пак администраторите меѓусебно. Тука можете да пријавувате вандализам, проблематични корисници, или било што друго кога има потреба од администраторска интервенција.
മലയാളം: കാര്യനിർവ്വാഹകരുമായി ആശയവിനിമയം ചെയ്യാനുള്ള വേദിയാണിത്, കാര്യനിർവ്വാഹകർക്ക് തമ്മിൽ തമ്മിൽ ചർച്ച ചെയ്യാനും ഈ താൾ ഉപയോഗിക്കാം. നശീകരണ പ്രവർത്തനങ്ങളെക്കുറിച്ചോ, പ്രശ്നകാരികളായ ഉപയോക്താക്കളെക്കുറിച്ചോ, അല്ലെങ്കിൽ കാര്യനിർവ്വാഹകരുടെ ഇടപെടൽ ആവശ്യമായ മറ്റെന്തെങ്കിലും വിഷയങ്ങളെക്കുറിച്ചോ താങ്കൾക്ക് ഇവിടെ അറിയിക്കാവുന്നതാണ്.
Bân-lâm-gú: 遮是予用者佮管理員、抑管理員佮管理員咧講代誌的所在,你會當報告破壞、製造問題的用者抑其他需要管理員處理的代誌。
Norsk bokmål: Dette er en side for å kommunisere med administratorer. Her kan du melde fra om problemer som krever administratorers inngripen; for eksempel vandalisme eller problemer med andre brukere.
Polski: Jest to miejsce, gdzie użytkownicy mogą kontaktować się z administratorami lub administratorzy ze sobą nawzajem. Możesz zgłosić tu akt wandalizmu, problematycznego użytkownika albo cokolwiek, do czego potrzebna jest interwencji administratora.
Italiano: Questa è la pagina in cui gli utenti possono comunicare con gli amministratori, o questi ultimi tra loro. Puoi segnalare qui vandalismi, utenti problematici, e qualsiasi altra cosa richieda l'intervento di un amministratore.
Magyar: Ezen a helyen üzenhetnek a szerkesztők az adminisztrátoroknak, vagy az adminisztrátorok egymásnak. Itt jelentheted a vandalizmust, a problémás szerkesztőket, vagy bármi más olyat, amihez adminisztrátori közreműködésre van szükség.
Português: Este é o local no qual os usuários podem se comunicar com os administradores, ou onde os administradores podem conversar uns com os outros. Aqui você pode relatar casos de vandalismo, usuários problemáticos ou tratar de qualquer outro assunto que requeira a atenção de um administrador.
Română: Această pagină este destinată comunicării dintre utilizatori şi administratori sau între administratori. Aici poţi semnala cazuri de vandalism, utilizatori cu comportament problematic, precum şi alte situaţii care necesită intervenţia unui administrator.
Русский: Это место, где участники могут обратиться к администраторам, а администраторы обсудить вопросы друг с другом. Вы можете сообщить о вандализме, некорректных действиях участников и всём прочем, что, по вашему мнению, нуждается во вмешательстве администраторов.
Suomi: Tällä sivulla voit keskustella ylläpitäjien kanssa. Voit esimerkiksi ilmoittaa meneillään olevasta vandalismista, ongelmakäyttäjistä tai mistä tahansa muusta joka tarvitsee ylläpitäjien huomiota.
Nederlands: Op deze plaats kunnen gebruikers communiceren met de beheerders, of de beheerders met elkaar. U kunt hier vandalen, of probleemgebruikers melden, of andere dingen die de aandacht van een beheerder nodig hebben.
Slovenčina: Táto stránka slúži používateľom na komunikáciu so správcami tu na Commons, alebo na komunikáciu správcov navzájom. Môžete tu nahlásiť vandalizmus, problematických používateľov alebo ďalšie záležitosti, ktoré môžu vďaka svojím právomociam vyriešiť len správcovia.
Српски / srpski: Ово је место где корисници могу да комуницирају са администраторима, или администратори са другима. Овде можете пријавити вандализам, проблематичне кориснике, или било шта друго што тражи интервенцију администратора.
Svenska: Det här är en sida där användare kan prata med administratörer, eller där administratörer kan prata med varandra. Du kan rapportera vandalism, problematiska användare eller någonting som behöver en administratörs ingripande.
Türkçe: Bu bölüm kullanıcıların yöneticilerle iletişim kurabilecekleri bir yerdir. Bir yöneticiye vandalizmle müdahale ihtiyacı, sorunlu kullanıcılar ya da başka bir şey bildirebilirsiniz.
Tiếng Việt: Đây là nơi người dùng có thể liên lạc với bảo quản viên, hoặc giữa những bảo quản viên với nhau. Bạn có thể báo cáo phá hoại, thành viên có vấn đề, hoặc bất cứ điều gì khác cần đến sự can thiệp của một bảo quản viên.
中文(简体): 这里是用户能够与管理员或与管理员及另一个人沟通的地方。你可以报告破坏行为、问题用户或其他需要管理员干预的事情。
中文(繁體): 這裡是用戶與管理員或管理員之間進行通訊的地方。您可以在此回報破壞、有問題的用戶,或其他需要管理員介入的事情。
Shqip: Ky është një vend ku përdoruesit mund të komunikojnë me administruesit, ose administruesit me njëri-tjetrin. Mund të raportosh vandalizëm, përdorues problematik dhe gjithçka tjetër ku ka nevojë për ndërhyrje të administruesve.
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User:85.138.116.14 & User:Linoavac[edit]
These users delete problem tags from pages, delete information from deletion discussions and similar things. A few images by User:Linoavac were deleted as "out of scope" and it is possible that the new files might be reposts of some of those files. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've blocked the IP and warned the user not to continue removing tags, etc. INeverCry 22:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Shlapunou.ivan[edit]
Shlapunou.ivan (talk · contributions · Number of edits:)
The user is systematically uploading unfree images as his own works. --Evil Russian (talk) 09:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Done - All deleted except for File:Pragueolgrav.jpg, which is PD-Old. User has been warned.--- Darwin Ahoy! 21:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
User:NBS[edit]
User:Gustavo neto[edit]
The user has uploaded several football kits with club and sponsorship logos. I found this to be in contradiction to the guidelines from the football kit template page: "Club badges, sponsor logos, and manufacturer logos should never be included." I therefore removed these logos from several files (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6), all of which he has reverted. I have asked him for an explanation on his talk page, to which he has not replied in spite of the fact that he has been active on Wikipedia every day since. He did however write a comment on one of his reversions: "This kit is my, and i do what i think!"
I have also noticed that this is not the first time this has been brought up to him and his actions have previously been discussed on the Administrators' noticeboard, and the resolution was: [...] The logos do have to be removed. I explain the reason for this in more detail at user conduct thread, but in short, it's a violation of de minimis. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Yet the user keeps creating new templates with sponsorship logos and reverting edits to remove them. Has there been any changes in the above policy since then? Merrrlo (talk) 12:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
User:Kintetsubuffalo[edit]
User:Nickaang[edit]
User:Nickaang (talk/contributions) has a history of uploading files without proper permissions even though he knows better. See Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Nickaang opened December 18, 2012, his declaration that he understands copyright issues diff dated January 5, 2013, and Commons:Deletion requests/Even more images from Nickaang opened May 27, 2013, as well as his deleted contributions. He is also a known sock-puppeteer on the English Wikipedia (see en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nickaang). I recommend that he be banned from editing under any alternate account unless that account is known to all Commons administrators (or to a Commons functionary who is responsible for receiving such information), and that he be "put on a short leash" regarding uploads, i.e. if he uploads anything again he must either provide rock-solid evidence of a Commons-compatible license or lack copyright ineligibility OR he must immediately tag the upload as "OTRS pending" and within a reasonable time (7 days seems reasonable) the actual copyright owner must initiate contact with OTRS or, failing that, Nickaang must himself request that the image be deleted. Enforcement would be in the form of having the files summarily deleted until the copyright issues are sorted out and, if the behavior is repeated, with technical means to prevent uploading of files (including blocks).
I will also make a less strong recommendation that he not upload anything unless 1) there is already an article (not a draft or "articles for creation submission) on the subject in a Wikipedia project and they are used in that article within 24 hours of being uploaded, OR that the image has clear educational value (this would exclude almost all modern corporate logos and other items that are more promotional than educational unless they were used in an article). Enforcement would be with a warning and summarily sending the files to "files for deletion" for discussion, with repeated violations enforced with technical means.
I was referred to COM:AN by the closing administrator's remark in Commons:Deletion requests/Even more images from Nickaang posted earlier today. Davidwr (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Ongoing harassment and poor behaviour by Nyttend[edit]
Nyttend is continuing to use the revert button rather than the talkpage, continuing to war rather than discuss. Some All of these pages have talkpages, and he is going against an existing consensus.
I notice that other editors are becoming concerned by his behaviour as well as Look2See1 and I. Today I saw this
Hi, Look2See1 (talk · contribs) and Nyttend (talk · contribs). I've noticed you two have been repeatedly reverting each other on numerous image pages (one example of many). I don't consider myself a novice about Wikipedia categories, but I'm not sure what the disagreement is about. I have no particular opinion about who is more correct, but I am getting increasingly annoyed at seeing so many counter edits back and forth on my watchlist. Let me suggest that you please take your disagreement to a forum here where other Commons regulars can comment, or submit the matter to third party arbitration. I think both of you are well capable of making better contributions to Commons than spending your time reverting each other. Thanks for your attention. (Same notice put on talk pages of both users.) -- Infrogmation (talk) 4 June 2013 (UTC)
The mass reverts only seem to occur because of ownership issues. The files are files that Nyttend has uploaded, and protects against editing by any other editor it would seem, Look2See1 is not the only person he'll revert in this way when it comes to 'his' files. example
He cites his ongoing harassment campaign, where he managed to get the sainty Look2See1 blocked (seriously saintly is a strong word, but Look2See1 has more than 100k edits and not shitty little one cat at a time edits, they are all well thought out multiple cats at a time, and he's never had trouble before he dared infringe on Nyttends territory) as his reasoning for his dislike of Look2See1's editing, he cites his whole campaign as the problem Look2See1 is causing ? that's fucked up right there. Tricking someone into blocking a good editor, preying upon admins who are in too much of a hurry, and then capitalising on that exact strategy to do it all over again, justifying further blocks on your own bullshit inspired trick. Plus the much loved ad-hominem 'troll' comment, which the community expressed it's love for (ad-hom's) at someone's recent second failed RfA, I would think that the blocking campaign, button responses, and the attacks are fucking up the community and using the God-damn talkpages is long overdue, pardon my language.
Or, like an alternative, I'd love to see Nyttend use the revert button for some reason other than 'someone touched my file' because I'm not seeing it. Doesn't matter how reasonable or logical an edit is, or the existing consensus in writing on the talkpages, he just uses the button instead, and moves to attack anyone in his way. Penyulap ☏ 01:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- First off, I have reverted Look2See1's mangling of many other pages in past weeks; it's simply that I'm sick of removing his changes on pages that aren't on my watchlist and don't particularly have time to fuss with it now. Second, I do not pardon your language: why do you characterise me as fucking up the community and my actions as a bullshit inspired trick, soon after describing my actions as an ad-hominem? Moreover, why do you say that I'm attempting to trick admins when you're doing it yourself with your "example" link? Kindly look at the edit that immediately followed it — I hit the wrong button and immediately self-reverted. You also describe Look2See1 as saintly, despite the fact that virtually everyone who goes to his talk page has done it to object to his actions; you're defending someone whose edits routinely violate a very basic principle and whose formatting changes have been opposed by virtually everyone who's addressed them on his talk page. On top of all of those things, you have not shown an existing consensus at any of these pages, but you've restored without explanation a parent category. Kindly reread this discussion; the actions widely characterised there as problematic continue to be evident; you would do well to avoid the actions that led to the previous ban. Nyttend (talk) 02:13, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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- well, to answer your question, you're 'fucking up the community' by cyber-bullying, because you don't have time to 'fuss with' established consensus.
- Thank you for illustrating here and now the ad-hominem characteristic responses I'm talking about. The ANU discussion you point to was kicked off as an ad-hominem attack, and the community spelled out they do not consider that editor to be suitable as an admin in no small part because of ad-hominem attacks.
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- Now if you can depart from the second to basest form of personal attack and actually start addressing the problem,
- You've been reverting Look2See1's categorising, rather than discussing your ideas on files you've uploaded.
- OVERCAT is not policy, so in cases where there is a dispute then talk-pages are used to gather ideas and form a consensus.
- You cite OVERCAT as though it was policy rather than a help page, even though you know it is not accepted as policy by the community.
- (I mentioned rollback before, but I meant revert, I've corrected that) Instead of using the talkpages which exist, you just keep using the 'button in your watchlist' to revert changes based not upon reason, not upon discussion, not upon policy, but solely upon who made the change, and who uploaded the file.
Penyulap ☏ 03:22, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
User:Badbuu1000[edit]
A predictable sockpuppet of User:Sridhar1000. Systematically duplicating files, reuploading bad quality images, uploading images with misleading and/or wrong names etc.. Please see Category:Sockpuppets of Sridhar1000 also.--Praveen:talk 18:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Giggette[edit]
Hi,
Giggette is POV pushing an undocumented map everywhere on Commons and a lot of Wikipedias, using brute force such as :
- systematic reverts (on Commons, on CA, and on a lot of other Wikipedias)
- no answer to the arguments explaining why :
- the map pushed by Giggette is an invalid SVG file according to http://validator.w3.org
- it was not created by any graphic lab, but by Keepscases alone (see original upload on january 10th, 2010)
- it's not supported by any specialized (thus, reliable) source, and therefore it's superseded by this valid svg map supported by a lot of reliable sources.
(More links to come)
El Comandante (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- That's kind-of what commons is for, to store crap you push onto other wiki's, and what's worse is the usual excuse people give 'it's the local wiki's problem' so I think people here won't be fussed about it, not much. As for the image being crap, well, most are in one way of another, it's no big deal, so long as at least someone finds it useful. As to the sources, this is so simple, would someone please history split this file ? and then you'll have a file each, and can put your own version into articles wherever you like, discussing sources with the locals on whichever wiki you like. Some wikis see things differently to other wikis, and form their own consensus, this is normal, like in the USA they'll say they won the Vietnam war, but in vietnam, people would say the USA got it's ass kicked and ruined the environment, that sort of things. So you need two files, and discussions at the local wikis. Penyulap ☏ 22:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)