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CSS is broken; load.php returns an empty response

I have been googling this issue with no success.

I'm using Gentoo Linux. I had MediaWiki 1.20.2 installed, and after performing several system upgrades (including moving from PHP 5.4 to PHP 5.5), the default CSS won't load. I have two servers with the same database and both instances are showing the same issue. I upgraded both machines to MediaWiki 1.21.2 but that did not solve the problem.

In my browser, I can go to /mediawiki/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared|skins.vector&only=styles&skin=vector&*, and all of Google Chrome, Firefox, and wget report an empty response. What's going on here?

Thanks.

Pentium4borg (talk)22:12, 5 September 2013

Can't create Manual:Index.***/de here on MW.org

Hello ppl, i can't create the above manual (index) (php), but this page is required for interested users, though so that the pages that have to do with the code, are completely in German. Maybe the admins here can change the filter, to remove the protection of page creation, namely, gets the following message when trying:

You do not have permission to create pages, for the following reason:

The title "Manual:Ind[..].php/de" has been banned from creation. It matches the following blacklist entry: (here appears a blacklist entry, but it was filtered too)

Abani79 (talk)06:15, 30 August 2013

Try it now, that title seems to have been blocked by meta's title blacklist.

Daniel Friesen (Dantman) (talk)06:37, 30 August 2013
 

printlink in footer

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Last edit: 19:03, 21 August 2013

Hello, I want to get a "print"-link in the footer.

I know how to get a Link into the footer, but the following link doesn't work: [[index.php?title={{FULLPAGENAME}}&printable=yes|Druckansicht]]

How can I get this?

Paul

Paul Hema (talk)09:59, 21 August 2013

What if you use [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}?printable=yes|Druckansicht]]?

MarkAHershberger(talk)19:04, 21 August 2013

Media Wiki offers me to create a new page like "Pagename&printable=yes". The URL of the new site is "www.../Pagename%26printable%3Dyes".

I think the "&" and "=" has to be masked. But how?

Paul

Paul Hema (talk)10:19, 23 August 2013
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Last edit: 11:45, 27 August 2013

Try the external link format like [{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/index.php?title={{FULLPAGENAME}}&printable=yes Druckansicht]

MarkAHershberger(talk)13:19, 23 August 2013

The problem is: there is an underscore/blank in the pagename (e.g.: "Current_issues"). The external link will be cut at this blank.

Paul Hema (talk)06:52, 27 August 2013

Use [{{SERVER}}{{SCRIPTPATH}}/index.php?title={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}&printable=yes Druckansicht], then. Note the extra "E" in full page name. I just discovered this on Help:Magic_words.

MarkAHershberger(talk)11:47, 27 August 2013
 
 
 
 
 

My team page exposed to vandalism

We have tried more than once modified misinformation, but the editor always rejects amendments

You can compare page Arabic and English page

Attachment links:

English page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hilal_FC

Arabic page: http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%84_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A The article shows the sincerity of English I hope the support

Thank you & regards ,,,

Tasmeeem (talk)15:16, 27 August 2013

There is nothing we can do here about Wikimedia content. You need to use the discussion page of the problematic article and you can escalate if needed to the Village Pump (or community portal) of your project.

Qgil (talk)20:51, 27 August 2013
 

Upload error This wiki does not support filenames with special characters.

when i download file with russian symbols (привет.jpg) i got Upload error

This wiki does not support filenames with special characters

mediawiki 1.21.1

iss8

mysql 5.6.13.1

php 5.3.27

X3group (talk)10:44, 16 August 2013

This is a problem with MediaWiki on Windows. See this bug.

MarkAHershberger(talk)15:30, 16 August 2013
 

Finding the correct version of an extension

When I was here the last time, it was easy to find the correct version of an extension for my mediawikiversion - which is 1.17.0 - as than subversion was used to download snapshots. Now it is almost impossible to find the correct version as GIT ist used and only the newest snapshot is easyly found, while the correct old versions are almost impossible to identify.

Now I need Extension:ConfirmEdit to block spam and the newest snapshot doesn't work and I don't know if this is because it is not the correct version.

Kersti (talk)10:38, 2 December 2012

Yes, there's currently no way to reliably download extensions. This is very unsatisfactory and has been discussed several times on this wiki, bugzilla, wikitech-l and mediawiki-l but there's no solution on sight coming from the devs; try reading/joining those discussions to find partial solutions...

Additionally, 1.17 is unsupported and 1.18 will be soon the next, so I think you're really supposed to upgrade to 1.19 or 1.20.

Nemo11:45, 3 December 2012

Actually 1.18 is already EOL.

Daniel Friesen (Dantman) (talk)12:49, 3 December 2012

Sorry, but it is not possible for me to upgrade that often. And there may be good reasons why someone is not able to upgrade to a newer version, for example because he is running Mediawiki at home and has an old Computer.

Kersti (talk)11:47, 13 August 2013

That's really not a good reason.

Krenair (talkcontribs)13:31, 13 August 2013
 
 
 
 

Review of extension pages takes to long

The Review of extension pages takes too long to my mind. Especially if extension maintainer want to publish important updates on their extensions it might be a problem. For example the last checked revision of Extension:Math is dated back to June, 5'th;-)

Physikerwelt (talk)07:06, 25 July 2013

You're right. These sort of issues (the RFC review queue is another example) are addressed semi-sporadically.

I suggest you post your concerns to wikitech-l so more people will be aware of them.

MarkAHershberger(talk)13:54, 25 July 2013
 

If you are knowledgeable about the extension, just ask editor flag. I would uncheck the whole page so that approval is no longer needed but I don't know how.

Nemo18:00, 25 July 2013

An editor flag would solve the problem for math. I was using RFC instead of wikitech-l, because I wanted to know if others have made the same experiences (maybe with other extensions) as well.

Physikerwelt (talk)14:49, 27 July 2013
 
 

Extension:IIS REMOTE USER AD-LDAP

I'm trying to install: Extension:IIS REMOTE USER AD-LDAP

in the auth_remoteuser_iis.php, line 25, require_once('AuthPlugin.php'); What plugin is this?


If you know a better extension i can use to AD authenticate using iis please let me know.


Thanks!

BigDuy01 (talk)20:34, 3 July 2013

Check out LDAP_Authentication, which is better supported.

MarkAHershberger(talk)21:48, 4 July 2013
 

GitBlit lacks full text search

The full-text grep search that gitweb used to have is now gone in gitblit: [1]. There is a "search" within each repo, but it seems to only search commit messages. Can we please have full-text search back?

This, that and the other (talk)06:48, 16 June 2013

I've investigated this a bit some days ago and now filed bugzilla:49674; it's not that simple, sadly. You can now use the Wikimedia technical search for simple searches, though.

Nemo10:04, 17 June 2013
 

Note that GitHub has both Wikimedia-wide and MediaWiki core code search:

Krinkle (talk)09:29, 23 June 2013
 

Broken gadget

The code editor gadget is broken:

Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden)
https://toolserver.org/~brion/extensions/CodeEditor/modules/ace/ace.js?_=1371718573156

Can it be removed, since we have the same via CodeEditor extension? Though the extension is not enabled for CSS or JS, perhaps we should ask it to be enabled there?

Nikerabbit (talk)09:02, 20 June 2013

Done (diff).

Krinkle (talk)06:08, 22 June 2013
 

Where do pages for new maintenance scripts go?

I just wrote Manual:SKcreateandPromote.php. Is this in the right namespace? Is it supposed to go where it is?

It would be better to use your commit access to submit patches to the original createAndPromote.php script.

MarkAHershberger(talk)02:18, 8 May 2013

Oversight and sysadmin aren't defined by core. Instead we should probably add some sort of --group or --groups param that'll let us add any number of arbitrary groups to the user. Either using --group=oversight --group=steward or if that's not possible something like --groups=oversight,steward or --groups="oversight steward".

Daniel Friesen (Dantman) (talk)03:14, 8 May 2013

I would just submit it to the regular maintenance script, were it for the fact that those user groups don't exist in the MediaWiki core settings. I would recommend a default Oversight group though, possibly a sysadmin group, but not all wikis need a group higher than bureaucrat. The only wikis I find it useful for are ones where the website owners aren't necessarily the main admins. In such cases, it's useful to have a higher group in place in the event that someone gives bureaucrat access to someone who shouldn't have had it. I might submit a change for defaultsettings.php that includes an oversight group. Because of the issue, I'll work on a script that can add a user defined user group, rather than a predefined one.

It seems that I'm not able to commit there.

If you can come up with a patch that implements this more generically (per Daniel's suggestion), I'm happy to commit it for you and provide you with authorship attribution.

MarkAHershberger(talk)00:31, 9 May 2013
 
 
 
 
 

Archiving rather than deleting

The pages of about 50 extension which were tagged with security issues were just deleted. I think this is quite a drastic step since extensions providing according features must now we completely rewritten from the start rather than being fixed. Also deleting is the "wiki way of last resort" which is not justified in this circumstance. I think archiving extensions is preferable. Thoughts? PS I am not opposing to move these extensions out of business.

[[kgh]] (talk)07:32, 19 May 2013

There was 37 deleted and tagged today, which now makes 58 removed in total.

This has been discussed previously (mostly on IRC) and we choose this option because we really don't want insecure extensions being used, and un-deletion is cheap (where as archiving them allows people still to get at the code in most cases). The lists of the current batches was posted to multiple IRC channels before hand as well.

"according features must now we completely rewritten from the start rather than being fixed"

These were all tagged for over 12 months. If someone cared about them, they could have fixed extensions or If this actually motives them anyone with rights can easily undo the deletion.

Here is the list of the pages deleted from this batch: User:Peachey88/Sandbox/SecExt, Did you know the oldest one was from March 2007?

Peachey88 (talk)07:55, 19 May 2013

Ah, I was unaware of these IRC discussions. Would you mind pointing to the logs?

[[kgh]] (talk)08:02, 19 May 2013

The first batch of deletions appears to have been "03 April 2012‎" so it should be a few days before that.

Peachey88 (talk)08:06, 19 May 2013

Undeletion is cheap if people are aware of deletion and its reason. :) It would be nice to leave a redirect or a link in the deletion logs to a discussion or summary so that people know about it. Next time, it might just be a note in a deletion requests page or whatever.

Nemo16:47, 19 May 2013

I agree with Nemo. When doing deletions we should have something to chew on, especially if the deletion talk dates back over a year and was not even done on the wiki. Users should have a chance to grasp somehow.

[[kgh]] (talk)16:18, 30 May 2013
 
 
 
 
 

We've been using the translate extension for a while now on this wiki, which definitely needs more multilingual support, so I think we should greatly expand its usage, by deciding where to start. The aim is to reach more MediaWiki users (rather than developers); benefits have to be balanced by costs, and in some areas the extension is easier to use than in others (or even easier than continuing with {{Languages}} and so on). Some ideas:

  1. Most viewed pages: I've done some, but they often need an update/revamp in English too.
  2. Configuration variables: hundreds of them have the corresponding Manual: page translated and can be assumed of interest. The pages use a common pattern and most important info is in the template, so – in principle – translations can be moved to the new system (semi)automatically.
  3. Help pages would be the most useful in theory, but those we have here are very specific and limited. It makes no sense to translate most of them, because the "real help pages" and their translations are in fact on Meta or scattered among Wikipedias (or other Wikimedia projects.
Nemo09:23, 21 October 2012
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Last edit: 13:31, 21 October 2012

About #3: What about the users of non-WMF wikis? Wouldn't translated help pages be helpful for them?

Leucosticte (talk)13:31, 21 October 2012

Yes but one should first move the up-to-date and complete English pages here from Meta and other wikis (finding a solution for licensing problems and also convincing them not to keep outdated copies around), which is not going to happen.

Nemo14:01, 21 October 2012

You may be right. I think it was a mistake to insist on public domain Help pages, and that we are reaping the harmful consequences of that decision. But to fix it would require acknowledging that a mistake was made, and sometimes people are resistant to that.

Leucosticte (talk)16:53, 21 October 2012

I disagree - PD help pages are a very good idea. However, it is a mistake to think they will be of any real use until we provide a workable method of distibuting them. I think it is a fairly safe assumption that if there was an easy way to import the default help pages into your local wiki, in the appropriate language(s), then that would be sufficient encouragement for the current pages to be tidied up (if, indeed, that is necessary - I haven't looked at them for a while) and, more importantly, widely translated.

I don't think think the solution here is to import existing non-English help content from elsewhere, or to try and encourage a translation drive for the help content, without having an export process in place.

HappyDog (talk)18:22, 21 October 2012

Seems we can all agree on this, so we're left with #1 and #2 for now.

Nemo08:26, 22 October 2012
 
 
 
 
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Last edit: 18:21, 1 January 2013

Configuration settings summaries have over 23 thousands translations for the Configure extension; it would be nice to find a way to use them on wiki. I've opened bugzilla:43380 to see what's technically feasible.

Nemo11:06, 24 December 2012
 

I'm not familiar with the Translate extension, although I'm looking for an excuse to finally give it a try.  :) Is it possible to promote a set of pages where translation is prioritized? Using a category, for instance.

Trying to translate the whole mediawiki.org is pointless and actually counterproductive, but there is a bunch of pages that would really welcome more translations, and a formal request to be translated. It would be useful for the project and for translator to identify those, and if possible get those nice stats telling that Japanese is 100% up to date, Italian is 83%, Arabic is 12% and so on.

There are two types of translatable pages based on motivation:

  1. Promotion: local languages are good to reach out to new users and contributors. Homepage, the hubs, How to contribute, the local Groups (mainly in their respective native languages)...
  2. Support: essential pages for users of MediaWiki and our technical infrastructure. The most basic and required pages of the manual, how bugzilla works how to get developer access...

Maybe it's worth having both translatable categories separate? Maybe some languages make total sense for Promotion but less so for Support (no specific examples, although I can imagine Indic or Latin languages speakers needing those translations more for Promotion than Support, since the average sysadmin / developer of those languages is used to deal with English documentation).

It is clear that the deeper you get into both categories the clearer is the need to manage some English, at least in our current reality. We could probably define a VERY LIMITED set of pages translatable here and now in both categories and then consider the addition of new pages based on actual need.

And I agree with Nemo that those pages need a review in the canonical English version before making big calls for translation. But maybe this is a feature? It forces us to go through identified pages, mark them as translatable progressively and giving more time to translators to deal with new content. For instance, we could start focusing in How to contribute and Help:Formatting, and do a first test with these pages.

Qgil (talk)17:00, 24 December 2012

Yes, it's possible to "categorize" requests for translations, see for instance m:Special:AggregateGroups. It's also possible to define priority languages and even to disable translations in some languages, but this makes little sense on this wiki. In general, people will always translate what they're interested in, not what you'd most like to have translated, therefore if something would use translations it should be translatable, while for focused translation recruitement you can have a specific priority group of translatable pages.

In short, I don't like that "very limited" in all caps, unless you consider (like me) that e.g. 600 configuration settings pages (out of ten thousands content pages) would be a "very limited" set of translatable pages. ;-) Specific pages ready for translation should made translatable immediately: I'll comment on those two on talk.

Nemo17:49, 24 December 2012

Ok, got your point. I just find useful to have a set of pages identified for volunteer translators without own itch or agenda. "I want to start translating MediaWiki content to Catalan: where should I start? Thank you."

Qgil (talk)18:08, 24 December 2012

I've created a high priority group now.

Nemo18:46, 24 December 2012
 
 
 

http://stats.grok.se/www.w/top was updated; the Help: and Manual: pages in the top-1000 list should probably be made translatable. Who's willing to help me?

Nemo08:38, 24 May 2013

Thank you for this useful link!

Qgil (talk)14:41, 24 May 2013
 
 

Install editor error

A thread, Thread:Project:Current issues/Install editor error, was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Peachey88 (talk | contribs) on 24 May 2013 at 08:41.

There are two extensions waiting for Git for quite some time now. It would be nice if somebody worked on it. Thank you and cheers

[[kgh]] (talk)10:27, 20 May 2013

"This page is no longer being maintained, please request new repositories in the usual place. If wanting to import something from SVN, just leave a note in the comments."

If people were still waiting and cared, I'm sure they would go check the page and notice the message. Perhaps someone can let the users know on their talk pages that they should be re-filed at the new page.

Peachey88 (talk)10:43, 20 May 2013

The confusing part is that this note was added after these conversion requests were added. That's why I was asking here. Probably something just went wrong.

[[kgh]] (talk)10:51, 20 May 2013
 
 

Exclude in print

Does "Exclude in Print" work?

wargo (talk)15:03, 12 May 2013

I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

Krenair (talkcontribs)16:41, 12 May 2013

Category:Exclude in print

wargo (talk)16:43, 12 May 2013

If it is meant to keep a template from being printed, it doesn't appear to work.

MarkAHershberger(talk)16:01, 13 May 2013
 
 

If you're just printing a page from your browser, no. If you're using the book tool, probably.

Reach Out to the Truth (talk)20:39, 13 May 2013
 

Reviewing pending changes here on MediaWiki.org

Is there any coordination of people reviewing pending changes here on MediaWiki.org. I made a few changes which are still pending. Seems to be taking quite a while. But I'm not very familiar with Flagged Revisions. Maybe I just have to wait.

My changes were to Extension:NukeDPL and some related pages (see Special:Contributions/Harry_Wood) Maybe for extensions the expectation is that a maintainer of the extension would also be reviewing wiki changes? That's not going to work in this case, because it seems the extension itself isn't very well maintained

Harry Wood (talk)11:10, 9 May 2013

No, there is no coordination. Usually people just review stuff on their watchlist, I guess.

Nemo14:18, 9 May 2013
 

MediaWiki Configuration Issue Driving me Insane. Please Help.

A thread, Thread:Project:Current issues/MediaWiki Configuration Issue Driving me Insane. Please Help., was moved from here to Project:Support desk. This move was made by Peachey88 (talk | contribs) on 18 April 2013 at 02:35.

Main menu and clarity on homepage.

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Last edit: 02:34, 14 April 2013

I appreciate that most people here know what they are looking for but a little sorting of the main menu (meaning what appears on the LH side of the screen under the logo) might just help occasional visitors. In particular the categories are not well enough sorted to mean that is much use as a menu item and the community portal just goes to the help pages (which are listed immediately underneath and would be found by anyone actually looking for that). Also on the main page there is an explanation of what mediawiki is (thanks, I have got that) but the relationship of this website to the software is a little unclear. Been like that for a long time I know... --BozMo (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

[[]])16:55, 3 September 2012

Good points and I agree.

I have started drafting the contents of a refreshed sidebar at User:Qgil/mediawiki.org_sidebar. Feedback welcome.

Qgil (talk)15:36, 15 April 2013
 

Page for general suggestions

I'm relatively new to mediawiki.org, but I've looked for a while and couldn't find any obvious place where to post a bunch of general suggestions I have for the software. I think that a place for general suggestions is essential. Suppose you are a random MediaWiki user or developer, and want to share an idea you had for the software, where is the obvious place to go? I was about to create a Suggestions page myself, but decided to ask first, I must be missing something.

LFS (talk)03:21, 22 March 2013

We handle "enhancement requests" (aka suggestions) in Bugzilla. The reason is that it is easy to create a wiki page and start posting ideas but it is then less easy to track those suggestions, do something about them, discuss them and notify about the progress to people interested. And you are right: this is not evident someone landing and willing to suggest something. Maybe you could suggest an approach to solve this?  :)

Today there are 4504 open enhancement requests in our Bugzilla. Maybe your suggestion has been suggested, please do a search before posting just in case.

I'm curious about your suggestions. If you file a request please add qgil... in the CC and I will receive the notifications. Thank you!

Qgil (talk)05:45, 22 March 2013

Thanks, will do.

LFS (talk)06:56, 22 March 2013
 
 
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