Why do you not maintain these popular projects anymore?

[IonicaBizau]

@harthur I was looking at your profile and saw this:

Why do you not maintain these projects anymore? If you don't have time to do that, why do you not search somebody to keep them alive?

[nickpoorman]

@harthur - If you would like to move this repo into an organization, I would be happy to maintain it.

[IonicaBizau]

@nickpoorman I was going to suggest that. 😄 👍

[janwirth]

That would be great. I am using this software in a project thesis because it is just the simplest solution out here :)

[ilanbiala]

@harthur any response?

[IonicaBizau]

😞

[janwirth]

how about forking the repos and creating an organisation for maintenance during her absence?

[jobsamuel]

I like that idea @nickpoorman 👍

[IonicaBizau]

@FranzSkuffka I am not for forking and maintaining. It's much harder to maintain your own fork because most of the people will find this popular repository.

I also vote for moving these projects in an organization, like @nickpoorman suggested. 💫

[irony]

I also agree, it would be nice to get an response from @harthur

[irony]

She have switched jobs to something secret so maybe she isn't even allowed to reply here: https://harthur.wordpress.com

[IonicaBizau]

@irony Oh, interesting read! 📖

[DinerIsmail]

Any update on this, guys? It would be awesome if this would be moved into an organization.

[IonicaBizau]

I just emailed @harthur! Hope she will reply me and save these nice goodies. 😁 🎁 🙏

[pablodenadai]

Thanks @IonicaBizau let us know how it goes.

[scrussell24]

I would also like this!

[michaelpittino]

Any update on this?

[IonicaBizau]

No response from the author yet... 😞

[pablodenadai]

There's an opportunity here for someone to take this over. Preferably someone who understands the codebase and is willing to move the project forward. That said, the project owner seems to have been the only major contributor in the past.

[michaelpittino]

Yes but as @IonicaBizau said that's not easy to fork and maintain because of popularity of THIS repository.

[pablodenadai]

Fair point - I agree that moving this project to an org would be the best solution - it's a shame the owner isn't responding the messages. 😞

[IonicaBizau]

@michaelpittino I contacted GitHub support–maybe they will be able to help us since @harthur had a talk at Passion Projects. Hopefully they will have a solution. 🙏

[IonicaBizau]

From GitHub support:

Unfortunately we don't have any contact details for Heather Arthur from her Passion Projects appearance. Hopefully she'll reply to your email if she's able to help.

[pablodenadai]

Let's start a petition at change.org. :-)

[voxpelli]

Why not just create a fork, move development there, keep an eye on this repo and point people to the fork whenever they open issues or PR:s here and then if/when the owner of this repo gets back to you then this repo can be updated to point to that repo.

[janwirth]

+1, basically what I suggested already.

[DinerIsmail]

I also agree with @voxpelli

[robertleeplummerjr]

I did contact @harthur about being a maintainer, no reply. I did read her website, and why she ended up doing so, and totally respect it. I would really like to continue in her absence, hoping the best for her. There is a risk that she doesn't like any of the changes we do, but there is also the chance we may end up improving these fantastic libraries. That being said, there are enough of us and these libraries are useful enough I went ahead and created: https://github.com/harthur-org and forked all libraries. If you'd like access, open a pull request.

[IonicaBizau]

@robertleeplummerjr That's cool! 👍

I would still recommend having real source repositories, not forks (that means: delete forks, create repos, git push --all from local clones of @harthur's repos). I do not like forks because they have limitations like:

• they are not searchable
• commits in forks are not counted in the contributions calendar (big thing, right? 😂)

Instead we can explicitly state it's the repos are a continuation of the original projects.

[janwirth]

I agree with @IonicaBizau, that makes perfect sense.

[robertleeplummerjr]

@ilanbiala, What if @harthur decides to re-maintain? We open a single pull request, and merge, and then the org can go away.

[pablodenadai]

Results ^{as of Apr 8, 2016, 10:43 AM GMT+1}

1. brain.js 10 votes (45%)
2. js-brain 4 votes (18%)
3. brain-plus 2 votes (9%)
4. brain2 2 votes (9%)
5. contrib-brain 1 vote (5%)
6. community-brain 1 vote (5%)
7. org-brain 1 vote (5%)
8. brain-ng 1 vote (5%)
9. com-brain 0 votes (0%)

[mickdekkers]

Here's two more ideas:
brain-next
brain++ (as in c++; brain incremented by one)

[IonicaBizau]

@SoullessWaffle I don't think + can be used in the package names.

[janwirth]

harthur-brain could be a good choice SEO-wise

[mickdekkers]

@IonicaBizau you're right, perhaps we could use brainpp

[hadesara]

Can we decide on the date by which everyone should vote.

[pablodenadai]

The poll has been open for just over a week now.

Updated results:

1. brain.js 13 votes (46%)
2. js-brain 4 votes (14%)
3. brain2 4 votes (14%)
4. community-brain 2 votes (7%)
5. brain-plus 2 votes (7%)
6. contrib-brain 1 vote (4%)
7. org-brain 1 vote (4%)
8. brain-ng 1 vote (4%)
9. com-brain 0 votes (0%)

28 total votes

@IonicaBizau I guess you could call brain.js the winner?

[IonicaBizau]

I npm published it under the brain.js name on npm. 🚀

If any of you wants to have superpowers on npm, feel free to 🔔 me and I will npm owner add you. 😁 Also, if you want to contribute to the project we can add you as member in the @harthur-org organization.

/cc BrainJS/brain.js#4

[janwirth]

Thank you @IonicaBizau

[robertleeplummerjr]

Devs, I believe a "huzza" is in order.

[robertleeplummerjr]

Huzza!!!!

[roccomuso]

Great job guys. ;)

[antoniodeluca]

In the past I have used Brain.js and some other JavaScript based machine learning libraries but unfortunately I have found them not matching my needs. That's why, working on my personal projects, I have developed the idea of creating a different approach by myself. So, sorry to be here to talk about another project but I would really like to receive some opinions and suggestions from experienced people that, being into this specific field, could help me to set useful and shared expectations. By the way, thanks for the great support given to Brain.js so far. The library is called DN2A and is on https://github.com/dn2a/dn2a-javascript

[robertleeplummerjr]

Can you please open a new issue, that way this issue stays focused?

[shimondoodkin]

https://medium.com/@heatherarthur/what-happens-when-you-retire-from-github-979fb6b143b3

Basically, he writes: This is hard work for him, A one with limited resources to maintain his repositories for others. He is overwhelmed by a large number of people contacting him. He has no resources for this. He dislikes this. So he quit GitHub. he "declared bankruptcy" on time devoted to Github, and He regrets sharing his repositories because it took so much time from his life. He expected people would fork and the code would be maintained by users themselves. but many good wishing people fall into his open door smashing him because they are just too much for him. So he asked to not contact him anymore regarding Github. even if you find him or his name.

[robertleeplummerjr]

expected people would fork and the code would be maintained by users themselves

And that is exactly what happened.

[kjprice]

This is one of the most fascinating issues I have ever scrolled through. I love coders and the code community. Way to go for pulling together, people!

[k1r0s]

what happened to @harthur ? lol

[janwirth]

She's alive and well - machine-learning-engineering. I think there was more than one issue motivating her to abandon github. But I don't want to seed any rumors here. You better google any information up yourself. She has a medium account.

[nclsjstnn]

https://medium.com/@heatherarthur/what-happens-when-you-retire-from-github-979fb6b143b3

[vickylance]

@FranzSkuffka But her profile says deceased https://github.com/harthur what happened to her. It saddens me to see a github profile like that.

[janwirth]

Wow - that must be very recent. The last post on medium was Feb 24.

edit: She's alive. Or Twitter has an API for ghosts.
https://twitter.com/harthvader

[youngkaneda]

I'm not still understand why she left the Github, someone can explain?

[AlibekJ]

Why do you care?

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[youngkaneda]

@AlibekJ my English is not so good, but here we go, I care because she's contributed a lot with the community and she just disappeared, why? Some problem with her career, or personal? Is it something we can help with? Is just empathy with the next!

[leeoniya]

https://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/

[Berkmann18]

This is one of the most fascinating issues I have ever scrolled through. I love coders and the code community. Way to go for pulling together, people!

Exactly my thought.
I'm surprised in why she didn't set maintainer permissions for those who contacted about that but at least BrainJS is a community thing.

[dialex]

Consider this: https://github.com/rejuvenate/rejuvenate